If Wlad beats Haye he's an ATG

Being the #1 HW does not make you the lineal HW champion, Genius.

BULL****.

Title is VACANT.

Like I said, Vitali has a better claim to the Lineal title than Wlad does and I'd be more than happy to explain why...

 

Beyond the idiots and ESPN and Yahoo sports, who has Wlad as the Lineal champ?


EDIT: Just checked ESPN.com and I didn't see anything there about Wlad being the Lineal champion.

 

hahahah go on then, who did holmes beat for the lineal championship?

 

Muhammad Ali.

Who has Wlad beaten to be considered the Lineal Champ?

 

naysayer, if it's CBZ you're going off, explain who robinson beat in 1946 to start a new lineage.

thank you.

 

Ali retired after beating spinks atsch

and i've told you, he beat chagaev.

 

Q: WTF does SRR and his welterweight title have to do with the current HW division?

A: Not a goddamned thing.

I could really care less who Robinson beat to establish is WW title lineage. I wasn't around back then and it has ZERO to do with what's going on in TODAY'S HW division...

 

Wlad beat Byrd for the IBF

Wlad beat Sultan for the WBO

Wlad beat Chagaev for the WBA & Ring Magazine Championship. The WBA chose to not recognize the unification at their own peril. Their belt is now meaningless to real boxing fans.

He also has the IBO but I have no idea which fight he won that one in.

 

Because you are saying the lineal championship is the only one that matters.

You base this off the CBZ's list of lineal champions.

In 1946 they awarded Robinson their championship for beating tommy bell. That was not 1 vs 2.

you claim lineage is determined by 1 vs 2.

See your contradiction there?

 

And then unretired a year later to fight Holmes. Holmes beat the man which makes Holmes the man. Period, end of story.

Ok, and? Why should I care? Who the **** is Chagaev? Exactly who did Chagaev beat to be considered the #2 HW in the world?

 

Wladimir Klitschko is the Heavyweight Champion, deal with it. Vitali & Haye are beltholders and they rank in that order since Vitali actually won his off the WBC Champ at the time, who was Peter. Haye won his from Valueless because the WBA somehow saw fit to hand Valuevless the belt even though he lost to Chagaev, by a much wider margin than he lost to Haye.

 

Valuev. You're just not too good at this stuff are you?

 

Muhammad AliThe Greatest 1978-1979, retires 6/79
Larry HolmesThe Easton Assasin 1980-1985

directly from your bible of boxing.

 

Tha's because the Linear title IS THE ONLY TITLE THAT MATTERS. The Alphabet trinkets are MEANINGLESS.

WRONG.

Exactly where is my contradiction? If you wish to argue that Robinson vs Bell wasn't for the legitimate WW title because it wasn't a case of #1 vs #2 then I'm inclined to believe you - if you can make a case for it.

Please go ahead, I'm listening...