If Wlad beats Iggy tonight, will you recognize him as THE heavyweight champ?

Great post & nice avatar, who is that?

 

Where in Wilmington are you located? I go there every now & then, one of my best friends moved right around Oleander..............

 

I live down by Shipyard and Carolina beach road, about to move to Carolina Beach though.

The girl in my avatar is Saffron from the group Republica. Check out their ready to go video on youtube if you wanna see more. Its an electronica band from the 90s.

 

I already consider him the best and although if he wins tonight he will be on a higher pedestal than any of the other holding titles I don't think I'd be quite ready to consider him a continuation of World Heavyweight Champions that was broken when Lennox Lewis retired .

If he was to beat Maskaev(should he beat Peter/Chagaev after this I would consider him the champ .This has nothing to do with them holding titles , merely I consider them(along with Peter) to be the two best contenders based on achievements , their 'titles' mean nothing .

After tonight Wlad will be close , very close . I'd nerely consider it by just beating another top 10 fighter should he win tonight , but I think right now I'd like to see him defeat Chagaev to give that real feeling of Heavyweight champion of the World .

 

Beat Ibragimov and Chagaev and I will recognize him as the champ.

 

I cruise by there on occasion. Wilmington is nice & it reminds me of Long Island.

 

I actually think he already is recognized as the champ.

 

he is the number 1 heavyweight, beating ibragimov will make him champ, we have been crying for unification for so long, we finally get 2 guys willing to do it, i think we should thank them and call the winner the real champ.

 

No doubt about it!!!

 

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The Undisputed WBC title showdown between Maskaev and Peter is the most important fight, they have a greater claim to be THE champion due to it being the lineage of the last champion Lennox Lewis`s belt.

When Lewis retired Vitali fought WBO champion Sanders for Lewis`s vacant title, WBC and RING. It was billed as being for the lineal heavywieght title. Vitali won, Sanders was stripped by the WBO for fighting for the WBC belt but technically Vitali unfied the WBO lineage with Lewis`s REAL title and was awarded the RING belt.
Vitali got injured before his fight with Rahman, Rahman fought for the lineal title and when Vitali retired Rahman became champion, Rahman lost to Maskaev. Maskaev pulle dout of his defence against Peter, Peter became interim champion and fights Maskaev in march for the Undisputed WBC title. The true lineage from Lennox rests in that fight.

The WBO title Sultan Ibragamov holds came about from Brewster beating Wlad for the vacant WBO title that was stripped from Sanders for fighting vitali for the WBC title.
The lineage of that title therefore doesnt amount to much.

Wlads IBF title comes from him beating Byrd who gained the vacant IBF title in an eliminater at the time that Lewis was THE real Undisputed champion. Nobody gave Byrd credit as world champion whilst Lewis was THE champ. It was an irrelevant title which Byrd truly lost to Golota despite getting a gift decision.

Therefore holding the IBF title today from that lineage amounts to less than the true claim as champion which is Maskaev.


Wlad Klitschko is the most famous and well known name but that doesnt make him THE champion now or if he gains the never recognised WBO title and its tenuous lineage which merely flows from Wlads loss to Brewster for the vacant title.

When the returning Vitali fights the Maskaev vs. Peter winner then the true lineage of Lewis`s title which Vitali retired with and subsequently was claimed by Maskaev will then belong to Vitali.

Of course, if Lennox Lewis comes back then he truly holds the lineal title and by fighting Vitali in a rematch of their 2003 fight would crown a true lineal Undisputed champion.

Without Vitali or Lewis then there will only be an Undisputed champion when the IBF,WBA and the WBC titles are unified along with the lineal title held by WBC champion Maskaev.

Saturdays fight does NOT crown THE champion.

 

Even if he was not to fight tonight, you all would elect him the Heavyweight Champion of the World one way or the other... I don't understand, it's gat to be some faith you have in this guy - can't be rational.

 

No. He may be the best fighter in the division but klitschko will not be The Champ as yet. He still needs to gather those other two belts.

 

With or without multiple titles,
Vlad is the heavyweight champ --- a head above the rest.
Until someone beats him, he will probably remain with that status, which does not appear to be in any jeop[ardy .

 

it should be an easy fight. wasnt it iggy who drew to ray austin? I wont recognize him as THE hw champ until hes got all the belts.