If Wlad beats Iggy tonight, will you recognize him as THE heavyweight champ?

Rock0052 · Feb 23, 2008

2 out of the 4 belts, and he'd be the clear favorite against everyone else in the division...that recipe is enough to call anyone else in any other division champ.

I think he already is, but tonight should make it that much clearer cut.

hitman6616 · Feb 23, 2008

nope. I'm gonna stick with the ring's polacy.

Langford · Feb 23, 2008

i voted yes. I think he should be recognized for it.

El Bombasto · Feb 23, 2008

lenin said:

he already is
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:yep

kg0208 · Feb 23, 2008

barneyrub said:

The Undisputed WBC title showdown between Maskaev and Peter is the most important fight, they have a greater claim to be THE champion due to it being the lineage of the last champion Lennox Lewis`s belt.

When Lewis retired Vitali fought WBO champion Sanders for Lewis`s vacant title, WBC and RING. It was billed as being for the lineal heavywieght title. Vitali won, Sanders was stripped by the WBO for fighting for the WBC belt but technically Vitali unfied the WBO lineage with Lewis`s REAL title and was awarded the RING belt.
Vitali got injured before his fight with Rahman, Rahman fought for the lineal title and when Vitali retired Rahman became champion, Rahman lost to Maskaev. Maskaev pulle dout of his defence against Peter, Peter became interim champion and fights Maskaev in march for the Undisputed WBC title. The true lineage from Lennox rests in that fight.

The WBO title Sultan Ibragamov holds came about from Brewster beating Wlad for the vacant WBO title that was stripped from Sanders for fighting vitali for the WBC title.
The lineage of that title therefore doesnt amount to much.

Wlads IBF title comes from him beating Byrd who gained the vacant IBF title in an eliminater at the time that Lewis was THE real Undisputed champion. Nobody gave Byrd credit as world champion whilst Lewis was THE champ. It was an irrelevant title which Byrd truly lost to Golota despite getting a gift decision.

Therefore holding the IBF title today from that lineage amounts to less than the true claim as champion which is Maskaev.

Wlad Klitschko is the most famous and well known name but that doesnt make him THE champion now or if he gains the never recognised WBO title and its tenuous lineage which merely flows from Wlads loss to Brewster for the vacant title.

When the returning Vitali fights the Maskaev vs. Peter winner then the true lineage of Lewis`s title which Vitali retired with and subsequently was claimed by Maskaev will then belong to Vitali.

Of course, if Lennox Lewis comes back then he truly holds the lineal title and by fighting Vitali in a rematch of their 2003 fight would crown a true lineal Undisputed champion.

Without Vitali or Lewis then there will only be an Undisputed champion when the IBF,WBA and the WBC titles are unified along with the lineal title held by WBC champion Maskaev.

Saturdays fight does NOT crown THE champion.
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It was billed as being for the Ring title. Klitscho was never the Lineal champion. I don't why this has been brought up lately. It fulfilled none of the requirements necessary to do so.

Leeroy · Feb 23, 2008

New.............Still. :yep

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