If Wlad is looking for an opponent soon, why doesn't he just fight Ustinov?

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  1. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wtf has TKO6 got to do with Ustinov?
     
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    krazylegs Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When Wlad had trained for Haye for months and Haye pulled out about 1-2weeks before the fight with a supposed back injury. Wladimir took on Chagaev, the #2 ranked Heavy(only behind himself and Vitali). So he went from training for a orthodox fighter to southpaw with no problem. He also had reached out to Valuev in hopes of having him replace Haye, but Valuev or his team( Don King) didn't bite. As both Valuev and Chagaev were scheduled to face each other in a rematch, their fight was canceled about a month earlier then Wlad's planned fight with Haye. SO no I don't see Wladimir pulling out from someone like Ustinov.
     
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    Would Wlad have pulled out if Vitali was rushed to Hospital and died a few weeks later?
    You're forgetting the real reason Fury did pull out, his uncle getting a blood clot and dying soon after.
    His wife having a miscarriage in that time frame also.
    Fury was never scheduled to face Ustinov, that's just a rabbit pulled out of the hat by FW to save face after his own boxer pulled out through "injury"

    Instead of blaming Fury for the fight not happening , blame Chisora instead.
    If and when Ustinov and Fury ever meet you'll see the class difference in both fighters to make this whole argument seem silly.
    Fury UD's his giant slow ass 10/10 times.
     
  4. Mr. Iron Chin

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    Brit****.
     
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    I didn't blame anybody in my post. Simply stated my opinion backed by Wladimir's track record. Fury has the all the right in the world not fight whomever he doesn't want to. I do however find it extremely humorous and hypocritical that just prior to Fury pulling out, he went on and on talking about how his Gypsy ass would never pull out of a fight when discussing Chisora's withdrawal. And Fury was scheduled to fight Ustinov as you can tell by these 2 vids, of their official press conference to announce the fight and the weigh in the day before the fight.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=009ioQCzm8A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAjMcIOKA2Y

    Also think Fury beats Ustinov as well. As he seems to be miles ahead of him in talent and skill level. But I'd have really liked to see him in the ring when his height and weight are not an extreme advantage to himself.
     
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    Did you just compare Wach to Tyson Fury? :/
     
  7. Mr. Iron Chin

    Mr. Iron Chin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No.
     
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    Fury was just saving face.
    Those gypsies are close knit family, uncles are like brothers, aunties are like sisters.
    If a distraction like that comes along, you can't blame Fury for pulling out.
    C Smith had a fight recently and I think he lost a family member.
    His brothers said they'd not go through with the fight because it would be a major distraction.
    some people just put FAMILY above their jobs.
    I respect that.

    Saying he "ducked" people due to a major distraction like that is BS, if one of your family members gets ill and dies soon afterwards I'm sure most of us would take a week off work to get our heads around it.
    boxers are no different.
     
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    Klitschko's father had been ill for some time with lymph node cancer, which he likely acquired from the Chernobyl disaster. He must have been in some extremely bad shape himself since he died about 10days after Wladimir's fight vs. Haye. Didn't stop him from doing a completing his training camp. Not saying Wladimir knew his father was definitely gonna die that soon after, but as some one who has seen several family and friends pass from cancer, it is usually quite clear that their time is coming to an end very soon.
     
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    There's the slow progressive deaths and there's quick sudden ones which change your World upside down.
    Like one of your parent being rushed to Hospital.
    y0u'll be there and put "training" in the back of your mind.

    If anything, Wald's dad probably installed inspiration in him, made him a better fighter watching him slowly degenerate.
    The quick sudden "Blood clot, my uncles in hospital about to die"
    Is completely different to cancer stemming over 20-30 years.
     
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    Fury's fight with Ustinov was scheduled in July, although Hughie was administered into the hospital at that time, he manage to survive an extra 11 weeks, until i believe Oct 12 or 11.

    And I can't believe I forgot about the lose of Emanuel Steward, right before Wladimir's defense against Wach. Which was what Mr. Iron Chin was pointing out. Those two were extremely close friends.
     
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    I think you're forgetting one thing.
    Hughie being Furies trainers Peter's brother.
    If he's distracted, as well as Tyson. Postponement is just.
    Its not a duck if it effects your whole team.
    For the record he was in intensive care for 11 weeks.
    That's still a damn big distraction if you ask me.
    Not only for Tyson, but for Peter.

    Steward was a close friend, he's not family.
    There's nothing alike, sorry.
    Also Steward died 3 weeks before the actual fight.
    I've lost plenty of friends over the years.
    It never took me 3 weeks to get over it.
    It took me one week to get over losing my nan.
     
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    Right. So it you were an elite level boxer that would mean missing a week of your camp and then ducking a world title fight. Ok, at least you're honest.
     
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    Ustinov was not a World title fight, nor was it for the mando.
    NO REASON WHATSOEVER to fight him.
    If the family troubles never showed up, I'm sure Fury would have taken the fight.
    Hell, if Chisora never pulled out, there was still something to fight for for Team Fury so they might have even continued with the original plan, they planned for.

    A fight out of thin air with a giant(For nothing)?
    WHY the hell would he want to do that if he never had to?
    Fights take a toll on a short career as a boxer.
    WHY WASTE FIGHT LIKE THAT FOR NOTHING?

    If Fury is WC someday, that fight will do PPV?
    From a business standpoint. He had no reason to fight Ustinov, and for the record Usintov hasn't earned the right for a mando shot at Wilder/Stiverne winner, never mind Wlad.
    After tonight's performance. He's not even in the top ten heavyweights, never-mind a problem for arguably the number 2 guy in the division.