If Wlad linear champion now?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    After beating Chagaev?
     
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  2. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Yes he is.
     
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  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    after beating ibragimov and chagaev, i would say yes, but he can't be the lineal champion, as long vitali is not retired.
     
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  4. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is as linear a champ as we are gona get.
     
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  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lineal title is sort of consensus ... not same as ring title which is nominated.

    So was Chagaev (guy who did not fought in almost 2 years, had no belt
    and who was ruled out recently from title fight) the proper opponent
    for gaining the lineal title?
     
    Stinky gloves, Jul 18, 2009
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  6. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Lennox Lewis is the linear/lineal champion.
    Wlad can't be considered lineal until the titles are unified imo.
     
    mrbassie, Jul 18, 2009
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  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    No.

    In my view the titles need to be unified to crown a new linear champion.

    Some people consider that a lineal vacancy can be resolved by the number one and two fighters in the division meeting. It's still a tough argument to make that Chagaev was number two before the fight though.
     
    Cobbler, Jul 18, 2009
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  8. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i wont mind if we share the lineage with his brother
     
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  9. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he is.
     
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  10. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he isn't
     
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  11. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Prety much.
     
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  12. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he isn't you nuthugging fool.

    There is no debate here, he has not beaten the linear champion in Lewis, and so has to forge his own lineage by becoming undisputed champion.

    End of story.
     
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  13. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Linear does NOT mean a **** if Wlad takes all the major belts and he still is not recognized one...:deal
     
    JohnAkiBoa, Jul 18, 2009
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  14. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And so when they both lose, we will have 2 lines of lineage, 2 fighters in the division calling themselves linear.

    ****ing great idea.

    :patsch
     
    Haye, Jul 18, 2009
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  15. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The tradition on lineage is #1 vs #2 to re-establish. I don't think unifying belts has anything to do with it. Of course, 1/2 rankings could be debated, but right now they are pretty clear. Given that they won't fight, I don't think he's lineal.

    That said, making the Iggy and Chag fights happen deserve credit. He's clearly the #1 guy, but by my understanding of lineage, not linear.
     
    djm, Jul 18, 2009
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