If Wladimir beats Wilder, Stiverne, Fury, Jennings & Pulev, is he a top 10 ATG HW?

Excellent post.

However, Vitali had equal part in his disallowing other "good" fighters to have a "great" impact on the division.

As to the OP......IMO....Wlad is NO LESS than top 7 ATG right now at HW.

Vitali, no less than 11.

If Wlad maintains his dominance for another 5-7 fights, it would be difficult to not see him cracking the top 3.

The K2's problem historically is that they maintained their level of dominance for such an extended period of time, that they didnt peak, and drop, allowing others to rise up.......YET.

It's going to take one of their WINS to come up in the next era and become great for their haters to rate them.

Vitali SHOULD have fought Stiverne. Stiverne will win vs Wilder, who will likely also become a titlist when Wlad retires.:think

 

No. He ranks below Lewis, who fought in a better era, and cleaned out the division.

 

He is already top 10. Too successful for too long to ignore. Cleaning out the next crop of challengers in his late 30s would probably push him to top 5.

 

He is already in my top 5. His best opponents of late were Haye and Povetkin, the guys you listed aren't even close to their level, except Pulev.

 

LOL!

How can you become an ATG when you biggest fight is against a B level fighter?

 

You offer this forum nothing but garbage.:roll:

 

He didn't fight Povetkin. He wrestled and danced with Povetkin like the *** he is.

 

If he beats those guys you listed, there will literally be no one left for him to
Fight....I'd say he's in the top 10
ATG already, maybe 8th or 9th place

 

Wladamir becomes the legitimate UBF champion of the world as soon as he takes out Wilder.

With that lineage of course he cracks the top 10.

 

Vlad's legacy is in the exact same sad state as Joe "Slappy White" Calzaghe was when his greatest wins were against Kessler and Lacy. He upped his wins by facing an old Hopkins barely winning, and a shot to hell Jones.

For Vlad to up his weak legacy, he needs to take a page out of the Calzaghe play book and try to coax some former ATG out of retirement to fight him.

The problem is, even an old and retired Lewis could come out of retirement, whip Vlad's ****** ass and even possible knocking his ****** ass old cold, even further diminishing his weak legacy.

Besides Lewis, what other A level recently retired HW is left to fight?

Roy Jones said that Vlad has ducked James Toney because he feels that Toney would definitely beat Vlad, even at his grossly overweight condition.

That leaves Vlad up the creek without a paddle, with a biscuit and no gravy. With a hot dog roll and no weiner. With a legacy like a 4 day old open can of coca-cola with no fizzle.

 

Yeah, clearly you don't have racial hang ups preventing you from being biased or anything.

:-(

Wlad is going down as a great, nothing you can do to stop it.

 

LOL, you Russians have the history of being the true racists.
In fact, don't you Russians, Zionist Jews, and Nazis share the same blond, blue eyed master race fantasy? :yep

Sorry Charlie, but this really has nothing to do with race, but boxing skill and legacy.
Vlad has far less skill than his brother and Vitali is certainly no ATG. :-(

ATGs face. fight and defeat other ATGs.
Who has Vlad fought but bums and B level opposition?

LOL, absolutely no one with sense mentions Vlad's name when discussing ATG legacies. :deal

 

:blood

I'm Russian? :blood Wow, another crazy racial rant.

Sorry, you are a racist. And racists are an irrational bunch, not worth my time.

 

lol@ all the Ktards trying to claim Wlads top 10 based on beating guys he hasn't even fought and most likely will never fight.

ATG HWs don't get ignored by the public and get down graded to Eurosport type non channels in their prime years.