If you are an RJJ fan or an RJJ critic, have a look...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Oct 19, 2008.


  1. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Jones has a Glass Jaw and avoided fights his whole career. That "resume" is pure garbage.
     
  2. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Yes, Roy Jones Jr. is a great fighter, defintily one of the best ever.


    Nope, his opponents are inferior to both and he didn´t take on his main rival at his best weight and there should have been even more fights against better opponents than he beat made happen. He could have a resume that would put him up there with guys like Walker, Fitzsimmons, Ross, Duran, Pep, Greb, Armstrong and so on. The fights didn´t get made sadly. He still became an atg.

    Don´t think so. Make a thread on here Jones in his prime vs. god and it would be 50/50. He is both overrated by his fanboys and underrated by the students of the game due to his fanboys. Great fighter though.
     
  3. DINAMITA

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    Yeah, Hopkins and Toney are ****. And many current fighters have better resumes, don't they? :-(

    But anyway, the point of the thread is to show how good he was 1993-2003, as reflected in the tiny amount of rounds dropped in a decade, it's not a thread to examine each name.

    How many others fighters fought 15 world champions out of 28 opponents over 10 years, and dropped so few rounds?? Just answer the question Spadafora! How many??! :D
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I have already explained this. The "world champions" thing is a joke. There are 4 belts now. I asked last week how many linear, unified, or legit champions ie: THE Champion of that Division Roy had beat. The answer? Was one. Yes one fighter meets that criteria.

    His resume is essentially Hopkins, Toney, and John Ruiz. When John Ruiz is on your "best wins" list your resume is a joke. There was only 1 champion in the old days not 4 so Roy's whole 15 beltholders crap is wothless.

    Factor that in with the fights he avoided and his Glass Jaw and that tells the non nuthuggers a lot.

    :smoke
     
  5. 1lehudson

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    I feel that Duran was over rated. As do many others..In fact Duran has slide down the rankings in RING top 100. At one point he was in the top five and now he is outside the top 10..I think as people really stop to look and think about Duran career its gets a little less impressive...Before his fight with Leonard not much on his resume, after Leonard he lost most of his big fights, thus Duran is over rated....
     
  6. LennoxGOAT

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    As I stated, Wlad lost 3 fights during the 10 year period.

    But unfortunately for you, I guess...there is a way. I am not going to tally it, but it would not surprise me if Wlad lost fewer rounds than RJJ, it was even, or RJJ lost fewer rounds. But either way, the margin should be close. Wlad usually sweeps all his fights. And pretty soon Wlad's 10 year period won't include the Purrity stoppage.
     
  7. DINAMITA

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    I couldn't disagree more.

    How many fighters since the 1970s have racked up more great wins than Leonard I, Buchanan, DeJesus II+III, Cuevas, Moore, and Barkley, all things considered? He also must be given credit for being the 1st man to go the full 15 with Hagler at world championship level considering he was fighting 25lbs above his natural fighting weight. Plus Duran at 135 was one of the true ATGs, he was as good at that weight than anyone was at any weight IMO, a magnificent fighter. I have him #7 on my all-time p4p list.
     
  8. DINAMITA

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    It will still include 2 stoppage losses and the Sam Peter fight, plus Wlad's opposition is definitely weaker. Close but no cigar.
     
  9. DINAMITA

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    How many fighters currently in the top 10s of each division have better resumes?

    Your opinion on this is worthless as you just hate the present state of boxing and the modern world.
     
  10. Drexl

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    Great post, but prepare for some backlash from the haters. :roll:

    You haven't hilighted him, but I thought Lou del Valle was the WBA champion in that fight. Wasn't it a unification fight? :think

    Also, Richard Hall held the "interim" WBA title.
    :good
     
  11. Drexl

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    At MW, he beat the man who went on to become one of the greatest MW's in history.

    At SMW, Toney was THE champ and P4P#1 according to many. Roy dominated him.

    At LHW, where he spent the best part of his career, there was no single champion. The belts were splintered. HE was the one that beat all of the individual champs and unified.

    You are basically criticizing him for not fighting himself! :lol:
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Yes Toney was his one win against a legit champion. He did not fight the linear champion at 175 and a matter of fact 2 of the belts Roy had belonged to that fighter. Also, there was a lawsuit regarding the WBC belt which was handed to Roy. Do you remember that? :lol:
     
  13. DINAMITA

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    I don't think Del Valle was but I'll check up, could be wrong.

    Cheers :good
     
  14. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
    i knew it was just a matter of time.
     
  15. Drexl

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    Linear schminear. Shannon Briggs was linear HW champion. That doesn't make him any good.

    Michalczewski got bounced all over the ring by JC Gonzalez, who Roy has a damn-near shut out victory over.