If you are an RJJ fan or an RJJ critic, have a look...

the reason Rico is jaw-obsessed, is because his own jaw is dislocated after the massive cockslurping he does in private on RJ's dildos :yep

 

Buster Douglas did something Roy never did:

He beat a unified and linear champion. That was the whole argument NOT who was better that was Drexl's little spin because Roy was exposed as never having beat a unified or linear champion.

 

what !?!? hopkins , tony , sosa , harding , hall , have KOed there share of mother ****er through out there career so to say he has fought anyone with a punch is bull **** , those are all world class fighters and he beat them all.

 

I will give you Hopkins and Toney. Those are good wins. The others you listed? :roflatsch

 

which one of his peers at the time had better ?

 

So?

Wlad has only held the IBF and even lesser regarded WBO. What's your point? Are you trying to give even more evidence that Buster Douglas and Shannon Briggs were more legit champions than Wlad?

There was no unified champion, so yes Toney was considered "the" champ based on majority opinion. Just as Barrera, Morales and Pacquiao and Mayweather were.

Again, if you had actually seen the RJJ-Toney foght you would have already known this. :yep

 

So you are still claiming that Buster was a more legit champion than Wlad, Vitali, Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao and Floyd?



Oh well, I guess I give you credit for sticking by your guns even while being bitchslapped.


The whole reason your ******ed "unified or linear only" rule came into the debate is because Roy did in fact beat several champions, and THOSE WHO WERE CONSIDERED THE BEST in the division regardless of belts.

YOU are the one spinning because your original claim was demolished.

 

Oh I have seen the fight it was boring as hell.

You have tried to spin this argument from the original which was Roy's 15 former champions is a farce as he has NEVER beat a unified, linear, or undisputed champion in his career. You can't compare Roy to other former ATG's when there was just one champion in each division.

I never have said Buster Douglas was better than anyone just that he has done something Glass Jaw Roy has not. Again, that was not even the original argument it was brought up by you to spin or change the original point.

:hi:

 

Where have I claimed that? Why did you even bring this crap up? Why are you trying to change the discussion? Could it be because Roy has never beat an undisputed, linear, or unified champion?

Nothing changes the fact that Buster Douglas has done something Roy has not. You brought it up so you must deal with it.

 

Interesting. Were you making a cup of tea during the part where Toney walked into the ring with his belt? Did you go make a sandwich when the ring announcer pointed out what titles he held?

Show me where I said he DID beat a linear champ or undisputed champ. :deal
All I said, and most agree, is that he beat plenty of world champions including fighters who were considered the best in the division.

I also pointed out that it was a bit difficult for him to beat "the man" in the division often because most of his career, that was him. :yep




OK, so what is your point now? I've lost track...

Are you now agreeing that Roy beat some fighters who were considered to be "the man" before he beat them, and that the best in a division doesn't necessarily hold all the belts or the linear title?


In that case, I agree. :good

Nice doing business with you.

 

James Toney was just a beltholder in that fight. You have tried to spin this but it did not work. Roy Jones never beat a linear, undisputed, or unified champion. You are the one that offered opinion and conjecture as to who was THE champion and you were wrong.

 

Simple question:

Do you believe Buster Douglas and Shannon Briggs are more legit champs than Wlad and Vitali. Just answer that question.

If the answer is "no"....... then what the **** are you blabbering about?

 

I didn't spin jack ****. Show me where I claimed he was unified or linear champ. All I said was that he was considered THE MAN, and he was.

Who was the man in the division if it wasn't Toney? Answer that.