if you dont give a rematch in a close fight is it considered ducking??

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  1. VIVA MEXICO!!!

    VIVA MEXICO!!! Member Full Member

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    i dont think its ducking if you fought the guy even if it was close. only if you never fight the guy. what do you think because i here some people say pac is ducking jmm if they dont fight a third time.
     
  2. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If there's a rematch clause in the contract, yes

    If your the challenger and you win the title, but refuse to give a rematch, yes

    All other circumstances, no
     
  3. pirlo

    pirlo Active Member Full Member

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    From when Margarito - Punisher was a close fight ?
     
  4. VIVA MEXICO!!!

    VIVA MEXICO!!! Member Full Member

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    all the real boxing fans know margarito was robbed. williams was lucky to win that fight but he was battered and beaten. margarito just made the mistake of starting slow and gave williams rounds. margarito would not make that mistake in a rematch and i guarantee he would give the fans another brutal knockout. :bbb
     
  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It really depends on the circumstances. Truly controversial decisions should be sorted out by rematch.
     
  6. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol. What the hell fight were you watching? Williams clearly won that fight. And I'm not even a Williams fan, per se.
     
  7. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    lol just look at his name and avatar.
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    Antonio Margarito feels like he should still have the WBO welterweight championship around his waist.

    But after he dropped the belt to Paul Williams in Carson, Calif., on July 14, Margarito laid blame for the loss in many places, including judges Tom Miller, Marty Sammon and David Mendoza and Williams promoter Dan Goossen.


    But three months later, after having sat in front of the television a few times, he has discovered a new culprit: Himself. He still believes he did enough to win, but admits he didn't do enough to close the show.

    "Sometimes you get too overconfident in the ring and it was a good lesson for me," said Margarito, who before the Williams fight had been pushed as the most feared man in boxing. "When I saw fight later, I could understand the people who thought Williams won.

    During the fight itself, I was very confident I was doing enough to win.
    "But watching the tape, I could see why people gave Williams the early rounds. He wasn't getting to me, but he was throwing a lot and I could see why people thought he was winning. Knowing what I know now, I would have come out harder in the 12th looking for the knockout. I almost had him out in the 11th, but I thought I was ahead and I didn't do enough to finish him in the 12th and that was my fault. I'll never do that again."
     
  10. iceman

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    If there are bigger fights ahead for the victor then he is not ducking, but if the decision was contraversial and there no are no bigger fights on the horizon give the guy a rematch
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it depends on the situation. Santa Cruz deserved a rematch. One the the governing body should have enforced. Lewis I believe was well within his right to retire, realizing he was on the downside. Had he continued to fight Vitaly would certainly have been entitled to a rematch. Margarito-Williams and Dawson-Johnson could still happen down the road, but I don't believe either was or is obligated to give a rematch going by what happened in their first fights.
     
  12. NO- Depends on the circumstances:patsch a very close decision fight should warrant a rematch, but it's all up to the Promoter, and the fighter..

    And by the way Williams clearly beat Margarito that isn't even debateable..:-(
     
  13. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in the case of paquiao imo he is ducking juan manuel because i tougth marquez beat him in margarito case i dont think so williams won fair i dont like williams but he deserves the respect for beating margarito
     
  14. Fat Tony

    Fat Tony Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't like rematches or even trilogies. Only if the first fight was as controversial as Abraham-Miranda I.
     
  15. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not if you already have a planned fight right after. as for Pacquiao..he already fought JMM twice! thats not ducking...ducking is when you dont even want to fight a certain fighter once.