if you dont know the fighter but he got this achievements and resume.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rathalos, Feb 7, 2017.


where do you rank this fighter?

  1. 1-10

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%

  2. 11-20

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%

  3. 21-30

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%

  4. 31-40

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%

  5. 41-50

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  1. rathalos

    rathalos Active Member Full Member

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    -only 8 time world champion
    -been in pound for pound list for 14 years.
    -only lineal flyweight champion to capture welterweight lineal championship.
    -3rd fighter to become champion in 3 different divisions in the original 8 divisions.
    -first fighter to become 4 time lineal champion in different weight class and first and only fighter to become 5 time lineal champion in different weight class.
    -longest fighter to be in pound for pound list he was listed in this list for almost 14 years.
    -almost fought pound for pound fighters since he became big star every year.
    -he was named fighter of the year three times.
    -he was named BWAA fighter of the decade.
    -he fought fighters from north america,south america,central asia,east asia,southeast asia,africa,australia and europe.

    112- sasakul wbc and lineal champion (thailand)
    122- lehlo IBF world champion only 2 weeks notice (america)
    126- moving up fought barrera in texas (america)
    126- after barrera he fought marquez (america)
    130- moving up again fought morales (he loss)
    130- velasquez, morales, larios, morales,solis, barrera, marquez in this order
    135- moving up again Diaz
    147- moving 2 divisions to fought oscar(shot)
    140- moving down 1 division to fight hatton
    147- moving up 1 division to fight cotto,clottey
    150(catchweight) moving up again to fight margarito (outweighing him 15lbs)
    147- mosley(shot)
    147-marquez,bradley marquez (lost twice against marquez and bradley)
    147- rios,bradley,algieri
    147- floyd mayweather (loss)
    147-bradley and vargas

    where do you rank this fighter?
     
    rathalos, Feb 7, 2017
    rathalos, Feb 7, 2017
    #1
  2. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Even what you described does not do justice because it doesn't highlight the fact that the fighter achieved an amazing thing in Flyweight whilst in poverty conditions - the condition you're in matters.
    Also, the fighter in question was past prime by 2010 and truly semi-shot by 2015 yet still carved an ATG Welterweight legacy.
    Also, he didn't 'lose twice' to Marquez, nor did he 'lose' to Bradley. The third fight should be classed as an even fight IF BEING NICE to Marquez given the decision was a victory for the fighter in question.
    15th all time. I could even be underselling it but I stick at 15th.

    Better yet, just imagine his name is Naoya Inoue or even someone like Shakur Stevenson if it makes it easier for some.
     
    Gannicus, Feb 7, 2017
    Gannicus, Feb 7, 2017
    #2
  3. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Around 40. That's pretty good for this modern era.
     
    cslb, Feb 7, 2017
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  4. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Andre Berto?
     
    There Will Be Blood, Feb 7, 2017
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  5. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Not to mention JMM and Floyd were both doping.
     
    There Will Be Blood, Feb 7, 2017
    There Will Be Blood, Feb 7, 2017
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  6. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Must be a small man who started in his teens. Westerners have a thing against teens going pro. 122-147 is only 25 difference. There are 7 divisions in there? I gained more weight than that between JR high school and Senior year. WTF
     
    FuMaster, Feb 7, 2017
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  7. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Above Floyd Mayweather :detenido:
     
    miniq, Feb 7, 2017
    miniq, Feb 7, 2017
    #7
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is an atg, whilst I thought he was more of a warrior and fought better fighters than mayweather, his pathetic performance against Floyd really left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people. its debatable where history will rank him in relation to his arch nemisis.
     
    jmashyaka, Feb 7, 2017
    jmashyaka, Feb 7, 2017
    #8
  9. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    40-50 range because it's who you beat and how. Also take into consideration he never defended his belt at 154lbs
     
    inner2deepz, Feb 7, 2017
    inner2deepz, Feb 7, 2017
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  10. There Will Be Blood

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  11. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    When did he become lineal at WW?
     
    DirtyDan, Feb 7, 2017
    DirtyDan, Feb 7, 2017
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  12. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Opinions are that, only opinions which everyone has
     
    Staminakills, Feb 7, 2017
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  13. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he means he lost twice in that year, once to Bradley and once to Marquez.
     
    Reg, Feb 7, 2017
    Reg, Feb 7, 2017
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  14. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yeah my problem is it shouldn't be counted as a loss as he was robbed by the judges.
     
    Gannicus, Feb 7, 2017
    Gannicus, Feb 7, 2017
    #14