If you guys think Joe can...

Hopkins had his fair share of soft defences....

 

Hopkins has been to prison, so Joe is unable to execute a gameplan?

 

:good

 

Such as... Any of Hopkins soft defences would match a Hopkins-Calzaghe fight back then, and I understand why after taking on Hakkar in Philly and the former European champion being pulled out of the fight by his own handlers, that Bernard didn't want more of that ( even Larry called him for that and he had to defend Hakkar)... He still fought Howard Eastman and that was a reasonably good challenge.

 

God didnt I already prove your idiot 15 punches a round thing wrong? I mean, have you even seen Bernard fight other than the Taylor ones?

He outworked and outlanded Winky.
Winky normally throws over 1000 a fight.
He did the same to Tarver.

His gameplan vs Taylor was to allow Jermain to wear himself out and pick up his activity late. Any idiot that has seen more than two Hopkins fights knows this. Give it a rest.

 

Bad Motha F***er Bernard would give no respect to Prince Joe, probably would be the first to slap him ( in the pre-fight) and any time he would try to execute that gameplan, would take a low blow here, a head-butt there, maybe a spit too, you bet he would be unable... But like I said before, Frank Warren kept him all those years amongst italian-brits in the green fields of Wales so that he could have executed that gameplan, now the executioner probably would gameplan him. Not even in Rhode Island with all the italian-americans sheering him up, I'm afraid.

 

Brown
Hakkar
Vanderpool
Council
Daniels
Mercado
Frank
James

There are others......

 

Somon Brown knocked out Terry Norris in 4 and lost a 12 round dec. in the rematch.

Vanderpool fought for the WBA Light Middle strap with Vargas.

Carl Daniels, another former Light Middle World Champion.

Mercado, whom Bernard fough in Equador with all the mobsters and gangsters ready to kill the yank in case he had won...

Steve Frank who said he would kayo Bernard and was kayoed in 1.

Bo James and Andrew Council were a nobodies, that I agree with. But there's nobody else or are you gonna mention Howard Eastman in the same category as Hakkar too? I didn't think you would. Man, at least you put Jada Fire in your avatar and not Sophie Dee or Jessie J...

 

Simon Brown was a welterweight who KO'd a shot Norris (a light middle). The next 3 guys are all natural light middles. What the hell does it matter what Steve Frank said? It doesn't make him a better challenger, he was poor.

At least Eastman was a natural middle, Hopkins didn't really like fighting too many of those when he was champ.

 

Joe Lipsey, John David Jackson, Robert Allen 3 times, Glen Johnson ( when he was undefeated and in his prime), Antwun Echols, Keith Holmes, former 3 time WBA Middle titlist William Joppy, Segundo Mercado 2 times, and Jermain Taylor who was undefeated and much younger. Howard Eastman is a great fighter and like Ricky Hatton, Sophie Dee and Jessie J, moved his ass to face the big brothas across the Atlantic...

 

The Old ******* :rofl Captain Conservative punch out put ? The man who as Undisputed Middleweight Champion called out Jnr Middleweights and even fought one at Light Heavyweight ?

That guy fight a guy as big as him ? Faster than him ? More Stamina ?

Snaggle Tooth even fighting someone like that ? And your saying he might win ? In fact no not just win do it convincingly against a guy whos never lost ?

Don't be so ****ing stupid the Old ******* stayed away from big challenges when he was old now that hes ancient theres no way on earth he will take on JC !

Hell hes ducked him twice already as recently as 2006...he also ducked Jones in 2002...

the old ******* would rather fight someone with a name from about 4 weight classes below him or a former coke head peanut dome when hes got **** all to lose after losing twice back to back against the first real challenger he faced in years at middlweight...

JC UD 12 OLD *******

easily

 

He didn't fight Jones despite a very generous offer though in 2002

a fight we all actually cared about

rather than a trilogy with Robert Allen

 

Lets all worship the big scary Americans...

 

Pretty fair assesment :hi:

 

Again someone mistakes his punch output vs Taylor as what he has done in his whole career. Ridiculous.

atsch

Like Tarver, Taylor, Eastman, Holmes, Echols, Vanderpool, Jackson, Johnson, Jones, etc, etc, etc.

Like Oscar, Taylor, Jones, Joppy, etc., etc., etc.

Hopkins is a fitness freak and a freak of nature. There arent many fighters out there that can go 12 rounds with Bernard and be the fresher one at the end. That is his strength....and so far, Jones the only fighter that was as fresh/fresher than Hopkins after the bell.

Joe ever fight anyone defensively as good as Bernard? NOPE! Joe ever fight someone with Bernard's timing? NOPE! Joe ever fight someone as dirty as Hopkins? NOPE! Joe ever fight someone as smart as Bernard? NOPE! Joe ever fight someone as good as taking someone out of their game than Bernard? NOPE!

This could go on and on. All the people that totally discredit Hopkins in this are blinding themselves and showing their bias. I myself feel Hopkins will win, but I dont spend my time degrading a great fighter like Calzaghe or saying stupid things like he has no chance (which he does, by all intents and purposes, this will be a close fight). Show some class.

Typical Hopkins hater totally putting all the blame on him for those fights not coming off.

True Joe would have gave Bernard a big payday. But he refused to fight anywhere but overseas (something Hopkins has already stated he will never do again...and shouldnt have to, being the bigger name and draw...AND what he has already had happen to him overseas). On top of that, Warren said that the fight would be at SMW, meaning out goes Hopkins defense streak.

Oh yeah, but because Hopkins wasnt willing to meet all of Warren's demands...he ducked him....typical biased way of looking at it.

And Jones...take it from me...other than Whitaker, those are my two all time favorite fighters...it was BOTH of their faults.

Jones says publically 60/40, then offers 70/30 when they get down to negotiating. Hopkins says 50/50...neither budge. Hopkins wants a catchweight....Jones says no. Neither budges.

Learn the facts before you post nonsense like that.

Im getting bored of explaining just how biased and wrong you are. Plus the Pats/Colts game is on....

atsch