If you had to choose. Would you rather watch Prime Tyson/Floyd or Manny?

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    considering nearly all of manny's "best wins" were fighters previously defeated by Floyd...??
     
  2. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    Stop arguing *******. This one's not even debatable
     
  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah,
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    . Prime Tyson was undeniably a monster and athletic as any fighter. But he was not a technician on the level of Floyd. His defense was good but not among the greatest defenses to ever lace up gloves, Floyd Mayweather
     
  4. Dunks

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    Ali was more skilled and more exciting than Tyson. Knocking bums out isnt exciting, it would have been exciting had he knocked out Douglas, Holyfield and Leonard. He lost all his big fights, whats exciting about that? a 6 round fighter is the most exciting fighter ever?
     
  5. Dunks

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    Prince Hamed?:think
     
  6. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    Dude, knocking out bums and an old larry holmes isnt exciting. for a 2-3 year span Tyson was knocking out bums in 1, 2 or 3 rounds....when he got in ring with a boxer he got his ears boxed off.

    Amazing people act like Tyson destroyed some of the greatest HW ever the way some of you are sounding.
     
  7. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    I think he meant to put "IF" at the beginning of his sentence:lol:
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    For a heavyweight you bet your gonads prime Tyson had great defense. Where do you think Tyson learned it from? Rewind and watch Tyson pre-1990. Hell there aren't many fighters in smaller divisions that had Tyson's defense. It's called bob and weave and Tyson was a master at it.
     
  9. Dunks

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    RING IQ? naw man..he couldnt even adjust to Buster Douglas punching him over and over in the face:-(...what kind of ring IQ is that?

    And I agree, his bob and weave defense was awesome. Just wish he coulda used it vs Quality HW's
     
  10. jeffjoiner

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    His defense, early in his career, was great. Very old school, and done extremely well. I'm surprised a fighter or trainer hasn't tried to resurrect it.
     
  11. Dunks

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    You need to have the athleticism, speed and power to utilize that style, Frazier was great at it IMO as well.

    I think also that most of the current or modern HW are tall, I think a short fighter can only use that style the way its supposed to be used.

    Its like Berto trying to have the shoulder roll Defense with his T rex arms...:rofl

    actually Berto would be a good size fighter to do the Bob and weave, short and stocky
     
  12. MVC

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    Tyson with Rooney was a pleasure to watch. I'd choose that version over Floyd/Manny any day of the week.
     
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    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    was Rooney with him when he got knocked out by Douglas?
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    People put too much value in excitement. Goal is to win fights and if you only see punches thrown you're missing out on a whole lot of little intricacies of the sport and what really goes on in the ring. Not to say I don't like some "fan friendly"(hate those words) fights but just my take.

    There is no wrong answer and it is about personal preference. I understand sometimes Floyd can be a bit boring because his fights are so one-sided apart from Castillo fights & Cotto. With Tyson you get Douglas, Holyfield 1, Ruddock fights, Bruno 1, and so on which were solid fights. Manny you of course get his battles with JMM, Morales 1, Barrera 1, Cotto, Barotillo KO.

    All solid fights don't mean to sound smug just get tired of the glorification of very sloppy fighters just cause they're "exciting". Just prefer longevity but more importantly skill.