If you had to teach a fighter....

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Black2023, Apr 28, 2011.


  1. Black2023

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    If someone cam to you and asked what styles of fighting he should train in to become a MMA fighter then what 4 arts would you recommend?

    Boxing
    Mui Thai
    Wrestling
    BJJ
     
  2. Stoo

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    Got it in one tbh. Seems to be the standard skill sets for training in modern MMA. Some TKD kicks can be effective at range and maybe Judo for the clinch too
     
  3. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your not gonna get much deviance from that list tbh except for judo perhaps

    How would you rank those in importance tho?
     
  4. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, that's about it.

    It's near impossible to rank them according to importance because all of those are necessary at some point. Roughly though, I'd be going

    Wrestling
    BJJ
    Boxing
    Muay Thai
    Judo
    other...
     
  5. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kickboxing
    Greco Roman Wrestling
    Bjj
     
  6. Black2023

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    Of course all the arts are important but say you had a limited time slot-


    Mondays- Boxing

    Tuesdays- BJJ

    Wednesday- Thai Boxing

    Thursday- Wrestling
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I would personally start with boxing then teach the other martial arts off of that. Many will disagree but I think if I teach someone text book boxing it is easier to teach them how to grapple and strike from that stance rather than teaching someone textbook wrestling or Muay Thai and then teach them different martial arts.
     
  8. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    I'd start with boxing as well. Then wrestling then BJJ. I think a fighter who excels at boxing and is average at wrestling and bjj is more dangerous then any other combination of the three skills.
     
  9. Stoo

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    Id work from the ground up personally TD defence, BJJ defence, boxing, Clinch GrecoRoman/Dirty Boxing/Judo, TD & sub offence, add kicks when confident of TD Defence
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Those are the 4 :good
     
  11. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i would start with muay thai then teach them defensive wrestling and TDD so they can keep the fight standing and everyone loves a banger and a KO reel will always get people interested. Then BJJ for when they eventually get taken down but mainly focus on stuffing the other person from doing anything. Perhaps some judo throws in there
     
  12. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    As others have pointed out, you've mentioned the key areas. I'll attempt to put them in order.

    1. BJJ
    Do not forget the lessons learned in the first UFCs. Every fighter that amounts to anything learns BJJ. If you've never wrestled, you must learn it because you are going to be put on your back by a wrestler. You're not going to just out wrestler a seasoned wrestler if you're just starting out. If you are a wrestler, you have to learn the dangers of strikes and submissions from every position. Dan Severn is probably a more decorated wrestler than Royce Gracie is a BJJ practitioner. Severn also outweighed Royce by around 80lbs. Royce was still able to submit Severn.

    2. Thai boxing
    Most importantly, checking leg kicks. Learning how to avoid head kicks also helps. Muay Thai is the art of 8 limbs. It deals with punches, elbows, kicks, and knees. BJJ teaches you how to defend against these striking attacks, especially in the clinch and on the ground. Thai boxing allows you to expand your defense to other ranges, and teaches how to dish out some strike of your own.

    3. Wrestling
    Freestyle for the leg attacks, and Greco-Roman for the clinch. Take downs are huge, sometimes too huge, in mma. Hardly anyone executes, and defends, the take down better than a wrestler.

    4. Boxing
    A boxer's punches are shorter, and have better leverage, than most Muay Thai practitioners. Boxing also teaches the importance of one of mma's most underutilized weapons, the jab.
     
  13. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    i like this breakdown :good
     
  14. Black2023

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    Great stuff....if someone was to master all 4 disciplines, would you say they could become a totally complete fighter?

    I was thinking about Marva Krav that Israeli special forces technique.
     
  15. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Krav Maga, and like 99% of it would be illegal or ineffective in MMA