If you have time watch Both fights and tell me Marques wouldn't win again

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  1. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would favore JMM over Hatton at 140 and maybe the drained Oscar. He will loose to Cotto and Clottey at 145 and 147 (they are to big for him). Pac will KO Marquez at 147 and beat him at 140. At 135 its going to be another fight of the year and Marquez can take it this time. Styles make fights don't forget it.
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yeah I think you have a point actually.
     
  3. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins Diaz or Hatton? Diaz has given JMM trouble, I think Hatton will also beat JMM, as for the Oscar fight, he would too beat JMM. Marquez is not a moving target unlike Pacquiao. Oscar has a good left hook, JMM is a sucker for left.
     
  4. miggzthatnucca

    miggzthatnucca Active Member Full Member

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    I think pac lost both fights but I give him credit for his win ... I think both fights were close and when u have fights like those u have to have an open mind to how the fight is being judged ... some judges score some thing u probably don't and vice versa ... infact I think pac has a better claim towards victory in the draw than the fight he actually won

    With that being said .. I think pac has made a better transition with the added weight than marquez ... and manny is a smarter fighter now than he was before ... he isn't trying to blast everyone out the way he used to and he's more accurate and is using his right hand a lot better ... I think pac has outgrown marquez but marquez is one of the smartest of the era ... still I see pac being to big and I see him hurting marquez pretty bad
     
  5. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I actually scored the first fight a draw albeit that was the first fight I scored in my life(I didn't do a bad job I guess lol). The second fight could've gone to either fighter but I thought JMM nicked it the second time I scored it. The first time I scored it I had it JMM 117-111 but was baffled by the wide margin(Forgive me, I was green to scoring lol). I'll score the first fight again in a few months time as it's been a year and I'm a much better scorer than I was before. To add more, I just feel JMM has the style to always give Pacquiao fits just as long as he's confortable at the weight they fight at. I'm a bigger fan of JMM though I love both but TBH, I can see either man winning the first fight but I scored the second for JMM and thought he won it by a close margin. I can't argue against those who feel differently than I do as they were close fights where no one "clearly" won. Definitely not "robberies" and this is coming from a big JMM fan.
     
  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar had a great left hook not good. I don't know what was left when he fought Pac but it is very hard to tell if Pac was too good or Oscar washed up. I want speculate. Hatton was never that good to begin with. I think that JMM would brake him down with combination punching and KO him late. Diaz was red hot in the first JMM fight.
     
  7. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Believe me Pac has improved, and him and roach arent dumb enough to go in and repeat what happened in the first two fights. They'll have a new gameplan ,and Marquez will try to do the same thing he did the previous fights. Pac won't fall for it.
     
  8. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You keep leaving in the past. Larry merchant is right when he said too many people gives jmm credit for coming back from those 3 knockdowns instead of giving pacman props. Pac beat jmm then moved on and beat bigger boxers who were supposed to knock him the **** out. (oscar-hatton-cotto-margarito).

    JMM has slowed down while pac keeps improving. Pac will beat jmm for the 3rd time if they end up fighting again.
     
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  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Don't use Larry's opinion when talking about Pacquiao, that's like using Ellerbe's opinion for Floyd. Also I didn't score it like that. Some times I watch the fight starting at round 3 because round 1 and 2 go to Manny so no need in trying to score it
     
  11. ViktorVaughn

    ViktorVaughn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I watched those 2 fights plenty of times and I can put money on the fact that Marquez will get knocked out. He should stay at 135 period. Pac is too big, too powerful right now and still got speed. I would be pissed if they do it bc Marquez is my favorite fighter and I would be concerned for his health. He gives great fights, wars!! But he shouldn't get damaged for a huge payday.
     
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