If you have time watch Both fights and tell me Marques wouldn't win again

You are the dumbest ******* on this forum, and that's saying a LOT.

I could easily make a video of only Marquez getting landed on and then looping the video to show him getting knocked down 4X repeatedly.

Man, what cruel god allowed your mother to bring you to term?

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you wanted to see the chicken dance right. I may be the dumbest which is completely not true since u got ppl sayin Manny is the GOAT and SRR is overrated. I know who the gayest poster is and that is you. Go suck a dick for a million bucks ******. There was an actual poll asking if you were the worst poster on the site and you got a good amount of votes. So please **** off :thumbsup

 

Nope.

You're still the worst.

:hi:

 

Go to back to Pacland, you won't be so bad there:good

 

Sat down and scored the first fight today and came away with a huge landslide score for Pac.

Round 1 10-6 pac
round 2 10-9 pac on effective aggression
round 3 9-10 marquez but a swing round, not clear
round 4 10-9 pac, marquez did not do enough to win the round
round 5 10-9 pac (marquez did not throw anything first two minutes, all pac, then tried to steal the round and had a few big shots but pac answered them all right away, so his aggression plus equal contact when hit gave pac the round)
round 6 9-10 HUGE Marquez round. His best round of the fight and the one that sticks in everybody's head. Definitely rocked pac in this round
round 7 10-9 Pac Pac got back in his rhythm and had effective attacks while Marquez just looked at him
round 8 10-9 Pac this is a close round but neither guy did much, I feel like Pac once again pressed the attack more effectively and was more aggressive while Marquez just looked at him and backed up, maybe a swing
round 9 10-9 Pac but a swing round both guys could have won it a really close round. Could be 10-9 for Marquez
round 10 10-9 Pac, outlanding Marquez and turning up the pace, Marquez was not throwing enough to win and pac was actually hitting as well as being aggressive.
Round 11 9-10 Marquez another huge round for Marquez. Great combinations and definitely won this one.
Round 12 10-9 Pac, Pac was aggressive the whole time but this was a swing round, could have gone 9-10 for Marquez instead.

My final score was 117 to 108. Easy victory for Pac and no way he lost every round after the first and second unless you just give Juan points for stepping back and not engaging with punches of his own in the first two minutes of round five and countless other instances.

 

did you score the fight based off clean punches being landed

 

Pacman's footwork was about a 5 when he fought JMM. Right now, it's a 10+. It's near perfection. Pacman didn't use his footwork to his advantage back in the days. Right now, that's probably his greatest asset. And he didn't have the right hook nor was he much of a counter puncher back in the days. This is just a different fighter. Footwork off the charts, throws from any angle, dangerous with both hands, can counter, and much more disciplined.

Don't get me wrong, i still see JMM having success in spurts but Pacman will KO him if they fight.

 

so now the *****s are on the JMM bandwagon hoping he miraculously beats Pac and their boy won't have to fight him? Please... this fight is a bloodbath and anyone with eyes should be able to see that. A one handed, weight drained Pac with iffy footwork put Marquez down four times and if not for the scoring error in the first fight would have won both fights. Fiscally this fight makes sense for Marquez but the cost may be his career.

 

The only way Pac would lose to Marquez is to go down at 130 or 135 so he can drain himself again and let the advantage go to Marquez. Pac was drain when he fought Marquez and still won. So people is trying to suggest a fight at 135 to drain Pac once again. I hate to say this, but Pac is the man and he is not going to vow down to a guy whom he defeated already, and to someone who is begging for him.

 

Nice insight. :thumbsup Pac's movement is amongst the best in boxing.

 

Marquez didnt win either fight. He was lucky to get the draw the first time, and didnt pick up more than 6 rounds in the rematch. I'd still rather see him get the shot at Pac than anyone else outside of Floyd, given how fun the first two were. I think he struggles to even make it competitive at this stage though.

 

In terms of footwork, yes. But in terms of footspeed, has there been anyone else in boxing HISTORY that can match his footspeed? I mean the guy looks like he's gliding on air in the ring. It's unreal.

 

that's exactly the problem. jmm is still basically the same as when he fought pac in their 2nd fight. yes, he has retained his skills but he hasn't improved upon them since then.

a clear indication of this is that jmm has been KD'd 4x more after this 2nd pac fight by the very same punch, a left hook including in his most recent fight w/ katsidis.

pac, on the other hand, as we all know and have seen has significantly improved these past 2 years since their second fight and seems to be still improving w/ every fight.

that's why i think a 3rd fight between them won't anymore be a close contest like their 2 previous fights.

 

did he win? 7-0 is right.

 

117 to 108??

are u ****ing ******ed?? :rofl:rofl:rofl