If you punch really hard anyways isn't being light an advantage at HW?

its still significant to the brain, isnt it, luis.

Or do you think their are differences in the result between the brain being smacked massive hard and being smacked massive hard plus 10 lbs. It will knock you out either way. There are not degrees to being knocked out, you either are, or you arent. We are talking about over 400lbs pressure direct to the chin. Fat and muscle arent going to alter this significantly - the brain will still go "OH SHyT, SLEEP NOW!" whether you have an extra 30lbs weight or not.

This is why people inside land rovers arent protected from the momentum of a crash anymore than being in small cars. (assuming length of front end isnt a factor like smart car vs land rover) They are still going to get battered by transfer of momentum as long as its a big crash. The scale of thing is so big that changing the size of the car by a few pounds doesnt save them.

I am not sure why you cant see this. Hang on, it was you, wasnt it, arguing this back then. I remember now.

 

Try being 215 with a 300 pound guy like Jarrel Miller leaning on you, clinching you, smothering you all night. I dont think it makes too much difference with a guy in the similar weight range, but if a guy can come 20+ pounds bigger than you and you cant keep him off you, you are going to feel it.

 

agreed, and who is helping jarrell hold up his 300lbs during the much longer time hes not leaning on you.

btw thats 85 lbs difference, 4 times that of 20lbs, but I appreciate you said "greater than"

 

Depends on the type of guy your fighting and how you handle that guy. Certain fighters stylistically can make a huge difference with extra weight and how they use it. Some guys it's more beneficial to be lighter depending on the type of guy they are fighting. With Wilder, Joshua and Parker, I think all three of them put on too much bulk too quickly and it wasn't as beneficial for them as they had hoped, thus are all looking down in weight. However I still think a 235 -240 Wilder will be a much better fighter. Yet Jarrel Millers pressure style dictates that more weight if carried successfully, is more beneficial for him. Likewise, Lucas Brownes agility and speed is no different from 250 to 280 pounds, so why not bulk up and use the extra weight? All depends on the fighter and how they fight, and the opponent they are facing and how they handle them.

 

yeh

 

Low body fat is the main thing. If the muscle underneath is more rock solid and dense, then its more capable of generating speed and power. Pure muscle growth is thickness of the muscle, not it's size. Genetically some people with different body types perform a little better with extra bulk, and then there are others that don't, because of their bones and frame.

 

It's very basic and simple physics my friend! On the receiving end, a person is knocked out by the acceleration of the head injuring the brain.

A heavier person would absorb the momentum of a punch with less velocity. So his brain would not be bounced around as much as a lighter person's would.

Thus, a lighter person would more LIKELY be knocked out by the same punch, thrown with the same power, form and speed than if a heavier person were to get hit by the exact same punch.

 

are you, the person who didnt understand what I wrote, trying to pretend I didnt understand what you wrote?

dont try that on me...friend.

 

If you're naturally a big and heavy dude, there's no advantage in stripping off muscle to try and gain speed or stamina. The last great HW, Lennox Lewis, had most of his best wins at the same weight as Joshua and he is around the same height. He never gassed or looked slow and robotic like AJ. The big difference is Joshua has bulked up way over his natural weight using Steroids.

Wilder, Parker, Fury, etc. haven't done this, so they all seem to be much better athletes than AJ in every department other than looks.

 

You can believe whatever you want. I've provided the explanation and reason as to how weight helps with punch resistance and power. Whether you choose to accept or disregard this explanation and reason is entirely your own choice which you are entitled to of course.

May the power of the Universe be with you my friend!

 

omg, it was you, i remember now.

Putting power aside, which was never being debated by me so I dont know why you added in that ol chestnut....you never provided anything to date to prove fat/muscle make a significant difference to a flush HW KO punch to the jaw, and you started this quest several weeks ago.

butterbean's chin is no more punch resistant to a HW KO punch than his hypothetical twin brother with a normal BMI. Bean just happens to eat too much, his jawbone isnt tougher just because he eats too much.

 

I don't remember doing anything that you claim I did. Then again, I don't remember if I existed or the Universe that I reside in, existed 5 minutes ago either.

The typical "Omphalos" hypothesis.

Perhaps my sensors and information processing system is deceiving me. How do we distinguish between what is REAL and what isn't? Are you aware of the reality in which the laws of physics is different from OUR reality where more mass = better punch resistance due to absorbing punch with less velocity / acceleration?

 

yeh u keep pretending theres obvious stuff I dont know, it appears to amuse you so thats something.

are you aware you keep repeating the same old kumpf to justify a brain of a fatman being able to take a direct KO blow to the chin better? Butterbean and his slim twin both get koed.

 

Yes, the laws of physics and the laws of Universe to my understanding is pretty constant for the most part.

More mass = less velocity when absorbing a punch = less likelihood of a knockout.

This is why Canelo Alvarez knocked out Amir Khan unconscious with a right hand but couldn't KO Golovkin unconscious with the same punch.

Unless you reside in a parallel Universe where the rules are different. Care to explain which universe you reside in?

 

enough of your crap, you are just repeating yourself instead of applying it to the argument at hand.

Evidentally I dont live in your parallel unverse where the brain of a fatman is wired different so that it wont get koed by a flush punch.