If you read the IBF rules, there is NO controversy. Bute won.

The people who claim there was a controversy having not even bothered to read the rules.

Apparently that is a common occurence here on ESB, whenever a fight is close. Let's not worry too much about what people who don't know the rules and don't understand what they see in front of them think.

Good job fighting the windmills, by the way.

 

Hey, Bazooka. I'm not putting a "spin" on anything. I'm simply relating the actual action of the fight. In fact, I might accuse you of doing a little spin job in that first paragraph:

"He got up but he fell into the ropes as well, his collar bone, both shoulders and chest area touched the top ropes, he also stumbled afterwards as well on the way back to his corner, he was knocked out."

1) He was up well before the 10 count.
2) He may have "touched" the top ropes, but that doesn't matter. The rules state that you must be standing and not held up by the ropes. I don't think you can reasonably claim that the ropes were the only thing keeping him up.
3) Who cares if he stumbled back to his corner. The fight was over at that point.

Your next point is that the fighter cannot be saved by the bell. But this has no bearing here. Bute was up before the 10 count, so there was no need for him to have been saved by the bell.

BTW, it's YOUR contention that Bute wasn't able to go on. But the ref is the person charged with making that call. And with 0 seconds remaining, and with Bute up and standing on his own, the ref made the right call in my opinion.

Now, one last time. I have no stake in Bute. That fight was literally the first time I ever saw him fight. In fact, I prefer Andrade's style of fighting. He's a tough, come forward fighter who takes a hell of a shot and keeps pressuing throughout the fight. So to be clear: I'm not trying to spin anything in favor of Bute. I simply believe in being rational and clear headed when it comes to situations like this.

 

You can reasonably claim the ropes held him up. Watch the video. He doesn't lean onto the ropes, he pitches face forward into the ropes. The ropes aren't there, he fall into the first row.

 

No,it was when the ref was counting,watch the end of the tape during the ref's interview,Andrade was closer to the middle of the ring than the corner.Just watch.And he was taking a step towards the corner where Bute and the ref were.The more I watch it the more I believe nothing was wrong

 

He was up and facing the ref before the 10 count. To claim that he wasn't able to continue is subjective opinion. More specifically, it is your opinion. But refs are charged with making that call, not the fans. To be sure, there are some refs who would have called the fight. But there are others, including this one, who would let the fight continue. (with 0 seconds remaining)

I'm not arguing whether or not the ref made the right call. That's open for debate. But what I am saying is that there is not controversy here.

BTW, not that this has ANY bearing on the fight, but check out this YouTube video of the 12th round. Someone at the fight took it. Not very high quality, but it does show that Andrade did move to the center of the ring, invoking the ref's admonishments that he return to the neutral corner. So the ref was technically right for yelling at Andrade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66CO0lksoEo&feature=related

Of course, this has nothing to do with the outcome. Whether or not the ref stopped to yell, two critical points remain: Bute beat the 10 count and the fight clock expired, meaning he made it through.

 

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8... UP, than the ref yell at Andrade..., but the fight was over anyway since Bute was up.

Im mad at the ref, because if he had not yell at Andrade, nobody would have complain.

 

It was over at about 4 or 5

 

Yeah, it's kind of ironic. By following the rules to the letter, the ref has now been vilified by the populist mindset that values their gut feeling over the facts.