If you say something enough, people will believe it....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by onourway, Apr 26, 2008.


  1. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    I have to laugh at the people who really think Mayweather should be allowed to pick fights based on how much money he can make from it and duck his biggest challenges if they don't have enough fans.

    Mayweather must be delighted when he sees people actually swallowing this.
     
  2. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    Oh my god. Do you read this forum? This exact same thread has been posted 3-5 times EVERY DAY.

    How is Mayweather ducking Cotto?

    -He has said he wants to fight Cotto.
    -He has never said he wouldn't fight Cotto.
    -He has not even announced for sure what he will do after he fights Oscar.. So how do YOU know he won't fight Cotto?

    You say that Mayweather should not be allowed to choose fights based upon how much money he stands to make.... well why is Cotto allowed? He has said that he would rather fight Oscar than Mayeather! Why? FOR THE MONEY OBVIOUSLY.

    And if Mayweather really is ducking Cotto and just trying to make as much money as he can, WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH?

    If you really believe that, all you have to do is consider Cotto to be the real champ, stop watching Mayweather's fights, and stop paying attention to what he's doing.
     
  3. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    sambob, if Mayweather wants to fight for money, then he can.

    But when you get 'fans' supporting this decision when they won't see a penny of it and we the fans get treated to Mayweather - ODLH II instead of Mayweather Vs Margarito/Cotto then it becomes a joke!

    Nobody should ever encourage Mayweather to fight for money rather than what we all want to see, it has no benefit to any fan out there.
     
  4. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    No. Don't just repeat yourself. Respond to what I'm saying.

    Why is Cotto allowed to fight Oscar but not Floyd?

    After all the Floyd haters said that his fight with Oscar was close! Many said they thought Oscar won.

    HOW IS MAYWEATHER DUCKING COTTO?

    HOW CAN HE FIGHT COTTO THIS YEAR IF HE ALREADY HAS A FIGHT SCHEDULED WITH OSCAR?

    HOW CAN HE FIGHT COTTO AFTER OSCAR IF COTTO ALREADY HAS A FIGHT SCHEDULED WITH OSCAR?

    HOW CAN HE EVEN THINK ABOUT FIGHTING COTTO UNTIL COTTO IS FREE TO FIGHT ANYONE? COTTO STILL HAS TO GET PAST MARGARITO BEFORE HE CAN FIGHT OSCAR OR FLOYD AT ALL!

    Floyd announced last December that he was taking a ****ing vacation. He just fought two HUGE fights in 2007, what is wrong with him taking time off? Many Cotto fans say "I couldn't blame Cotto if he wanted to take the first part of 2008 off after fighting Judah and Mosley in 2007".

    Floyd has SAID he wants to fight Cotto. He has said he'll do it when Cotto's name is bigger. When he says this all of his haters go "SEE HE DOESN'T WANT TO FIGHT COTTO!" BUT HE JUST SAID HE DOES WANT TO FIGHT COTTO!! Just when Cotto can make them BOTH more money!

    Cotto wants more money (thats why he wants to fight Oscar obviously). Floyd wants more money. If Cotto wants to fight Oscar instead of pursuing a fight with Floyd (which he is NOT doing, he has never called out Floyd), then that proves he is interested in whichever fight has the most money. If Cotto thinks like this (just like Mayweather), then doesn't that mean he would want to let Mayweather-Cotto build up some more so that they can BOTH make more money?

    You people seem to forget that when Mayweather says he wants to wait before fighting Cotto, so he can make more money... that 'more money' includes more money for COTTO! More money for Bob Arum as well. Do you think Bob Arum is going around bitching about Floyd because he really believes Floyd is a coward? Arum is hyping the fight.

    Floyd and Cotto know they will fight next year - so why do all the Floyd haters on ESB refuse to believe that Floyd will fight him?
     
  5. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prize fighter fighting for money :huh how stupid is that .. these guys should be fighting for free .. even if they are crippled during a fight , the price of glory is all worth it .. Look at the GMan , Im sure he's happy that his sister are taking care of him and helping him to the bathroom, he' blind and will be confined to a wheelchair all his life and let not forget the fact he will never know what his kid look like , who need that ? when It all in the name of Glory:lol:
     
  6. Roper

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    Don't worry about who supports him.
     
  7. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Cotto has fought nearly every top WW apart from Floyd, he's entitled to fight ODLH after the Margarito fight.

    I never said Mayweather was ducking Cotto.

    Why is he even fighting Oscar?? Pointless fight, purely a money fight, been there, done that, load of ****.

    Does Cotto have a fight scheduled with Oscar? Doubt it.

    Cotto does need to beat Margarito yes, but talks could easily start for the Mayweather - Cotto fight.


    In your style...

    THE POINT YOU'RE MISSING IS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAYWEATHER'S ACTUAL INTENTIONS! I'M TALKING ABOUT FANS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS AND ENCOURAGING FLOYD NOT TO FIGHT CERTAIN PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FANS OR MAKE FLOYD ENOUGH MONEY. MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY FIGHT FAN, WE DON'T MAKE **** FROM IT, WE SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW. WE THE FANS SHOULD LOOK TO SEE THE BEST FIGHTS, NOT COVER PEOPLES ARSES AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO DUCK.
     
  8. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    You're an idiot.

    Obviously they fight for money, but Mayweather should look to make legacy defining fights (which he'll get a purse for dumbass) rather than fights which line his pockets and mean nothing.

    Mayweather is made for life and doesn't fight in a style where he's going to get hurt, if we're going to talk about the perils of boxing then lets never make a fight again, dicksplash.
     
  9. PH|LLA

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    if you say Mayweather is afraid of Cotto often enough, people will believe it.

    I have to laugh at the people who really think Mayweather is scared of Cotto just because he wants to make alot of money.

    Arum must be delighted when he sees people actually swallowing this.
     
  10. Roper

    Roper Member Full Member

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    Exactly. These frigging people don't even see they do the same ish.
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im the idiot ,,thats rich u fool ..
    Cotto was looking to fight oscar for the money even before the MArgarito fight and he doing it now so were the Legacy in that ,, looks like he lining his pocket to me..

    Arum is never going to make fights that he doesn't stand to make the most gain , that mean he has to make his money first before the boxer if that doesn't happen then the fight is not happening ,, if that wasn't the case he would have payed floyd the 8 mill to fight Margartio plus the Guarantee of 10 mill to face Cotto and Hatton but he didn't because it was too much of a risk.

    According to Arum Its the fight everyone wants to see right... Wrong not unless Arum makes his cut first. Again where the Legacy ..

    Legacy defining fight don't alway mean big purses u dip ****, purses are negotiated in big fights, there not given ..
    if that was the case Margartio would have fought Cotto the first time when he had a chance, instead of fighting williams FOR MORE MONEY u dip ****.

    The only reason Margarito is fight Cotto now is because Arum is telling him too, and to make for being a bad boy and making deal behind Arum's back with out Aurm getting paid. Margarito better be a good boy from now on or take the risk of never fighting in the top 10 again , arum can make that happen for him ..

    IF your going to talk perils of boxing then you have to talk about compensation of pay ya DUMB ****.
    No fighter and I mean no Fighter is going to Take more risk with little compensation .

    which bring us back to Cotto vs Floyd this fight is going to hit the nigotiation table between both parties I highly doubt your going to get cotto to fight Floyd for 5 mill , cotto is going to want no less then 10 to 15 mill that not including Arum cut or Floyds.. so whos going to generate that type of gate ? the 300 or so true boxing fans on this site ?!?! :lol: Half of these guy would find a way to see for free..:lol:

    so you need to sit down and STFU and wait for the fight to comes to head were both parties will be satisfied , MONEY , location , and site.