If you think about it, mayweather ideal fighter to beat pacquiao

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  1. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When did Floyd ever start running after getting hit? Review his fights. Find the ones where he seems to get tagged hard and see what he does. He fights back and comes out on top.
     
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  2. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The problem with your post is that the advantages those guys had over Floyd wont help Pac at all.

    Hoya was successful with his long jab. Pac doesnt have that and doesnt use that.

    Castillo was successful with his strenght and body attack against an injured Floyd. Pac doesnt go to the body, damn almost never does, and isnt bigger and stronger then Floyd.

    Hatton wasnt successful at all in anything, though he did succeed in wrestling Floyd during some stretches, and couldnt land anything during those stretches. Thats not Pac style at all.
     
    HolyCityBully, Nov 21, 2009
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  3. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is gonna get that ass whip. He's never fought no one like Floyd. Hatton, De la hoyle and Cotto lacks the speed, defense and skill that Floyd pocess. Manny and Roach have to pull every trick out the bag and a couple of prays to pull this one off. Once the bullying fails the next trick for Manny is to bite........lol.
     
    Sunchild78, Nov 21, 2009
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  4. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Pac is great, but if you compare Mayweather to the last few guys that he has beat, you see why he won't beat Floyd. One could argue that Floyd hasn't fought anyone like Pac, and that's true but as I stated in my post when I started this thread, Mayweather has all the tools to defeat Pac. To beat someone like Pac you need to have the following: comparable speed and/or the ability to negate his speed with a solid jab and very good timing and accuracy (Mayweather has), a very good right hand and left hook (Mayweather has), a solid chin (Mayweather has), very good stamina (Mayweather has), very good footwork (Mayweather has), versatility and the ability to adapt round to round (Mayweather has), big fight experience and an experienced corner (Mayweather has), a high boxing IQ (Mayweather has) and finally very good defense (Mayweather has legendary defense).

    To beat Mayweather, one would need to either outbox him (good luck) or land a hard punch that either knocks him out or causes him to go into his shell and look to merely survive and thus beat him through his sheer lack of activity. Due to his amazing defense and boxing IQ, my money is on Floyd to not get knocked out or hurt badly enough for him to lose that way.
     
    southpaw1974, Nov 23, 2009
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  5. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think a lot of you have been fooled by the marquez fight, pac will be the fastest, offensive fighter floyd has fought who has great footwork. floyd wont be able to run around potshotting like he did to marquez. pac has got the tools to beat mayweather.
     
    artofwar, Nov 23, 2009
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  6. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    like bruce lee said " you have to fight a boxer"
     
    artofwar, Nov 23, 2009
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Of course PBF is a stylistic nightmare for Pac.:deal Pac has a puncher's chance that's it.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excellent post that sums it up.
     
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  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Why would we be fooled by the JMM fight? PBF is JMM x10 he has JMM beat in all departments common sense tells you that if Pac had hell with JMM he would have hell with and even better fighter in PBF.:deal
     
    Pimp C, Nov 23, 2009
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  10. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they are still different fighters plus pac has improved.
     
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  11. Lakers2432

    Lakers2432 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree. LOL Pac is in for a very tough fight against PBF. After the 5th or 6th round I am curious if Pac will still be pressing the fight after being countered over and over again from PBF. I think Pac will be the one to step off the gas and go in to survival mode not PBF. Unlike Hoya, Hatton, and even Cotto PBF is not good but great fighting off the back foot.
     
    Lakers2432, Nov 23, 2009
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  12. JuanMa

    JuanMa business as usual Full Member

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    Yes Mayweather's style will pose problems for Pac Both men have a 50/50 chance of winning i think.
     
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  13. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not just Marquez bro (although he did look sensational in that fight and against a future Hall of Famer and off a near 2 year layoff to boot), it's also what he has shown in the 39 other fights prior to that one. How exactly do you think Pac will beat him? Speed isn't enough, and power is only a factor if you can consistently land punches and/or are able to land a haymaker. That is a possibility, but if that doesn't happen (greater chance it won't than it will), Pac gets outfoxed and outboxed. Pac couldn't outbox Marquez, and you saw how Marquez's boxing skills matched up to Floyd's. Pac is great, don't get me wrong, but Mayweather is a boxing God.
     
    southpaw1974, Nov 23, 2009
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  14. r2d2

    r2d2 HATERS GONNA HATE! Full Member

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    you didnt put a check mark on .

    - can PACMAN do one punch KO?
    - can PACMAN land at least one power punch?

    you only put check marks on mayweather, you cheated.

    i bet you'll hear the phrase "Same move everytime" again.

    speed+power = beatup cotto. apply the same equation and you'll end up "beatup mayweather"
     
    r2d2, Nov 23, 2009
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  15. Blind Sheikh

    Blind Sheikh Active Member Full Member

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    If you think about it, Mayweather hasn't fought a top fighter in his own division in 3 years. So all of your assumptions about what Mayweather can and can't do are based on your sexual fantasies because they never happened in real life.
     
    Blind Sheikh, Nov 23, 2009
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