If you were a prize fighter...

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  1. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    i dont know if that 73m was strictly purse+ppv money.


    noob.

    learn to read.

    at 50/50(2008-2010), they would of earned in the vicinity 75-80m each.

    at 40-60 (present), thefjr could earn, upwards of 80m.


    either case, theftjr would have earned more than he did vs. drainelo.



    wtf are you smoking? learn to ****ing read and understand.

    who the **** would suggest 90-10 split to a guy who has been a consistent ppv performer in the last 5 yrs.
     
  2. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    :patsch

    You still don't get it.
     
  3. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, your point was Pacquiao declined testing, that simply isn't true. It never happened.

    Bro, they negotiated multiple times. Floyd walked away from $100 million, all his testing agreed to. Ask 50 Cent, he'll tell you Floyd just left it on the table. Ask Michael Koncz. They all know, the old school fighters know who is to blame too, from Tyson to Holyfield to Floyd's hero Larry Holmes.

    "Money" turned down the money through pure fear.

    #nomoreexcuses
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Mayweather vs Canelo
    Fight does 2.2 buys, roughly $150 million.
    Total purse + PPV split between fighters is $92 million.
    Meaning 61.3% of the revenue is split between the fighters.
    Mayweather got 87%, Canelo got 13%.
    An 87/13 split got Floyd $80 million.

    Mayweather vs Pacquiao
    If this fight does 3 million buys at the same price, that's $204 million.
    61.3% going to the fighters, again, is $125 million.
    50/50 = $62.5 million for both fighters.
    60/40 = $75 million/$50 million.

    That's at 3 million buys, 800k more than the Canelo fight. And Floyd makes less at a 60/40 split. Meaning the fight would have to sell over 3 million buys or be priced at $100/PPV (ridiculous) and still do more buys, just so Floyd would make more than the Canelo fight. So 60/40 isn't happening because Floyd would take a pay cut, unless he's willing to take a pay cut.
     
  5. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I won't argue with someone who says Floyd is scared, there's plenty evidence of that. But I don't believe that's why the fight hasn't happened. My point was "If I was in Floyd's position..." and someone had an issue with testing, whether declined or implied he didn't want to take it, I'd end negotiations immediately. I wouldn't fight someone, who to my knowledge, is cheating.

    Look at Pacquiao vs Marquez 4: No testing involved, Marquez looks like he could have been cheating, Pacquiao gets knocked out cold and now wants testing done.
     
  6. progamer

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    idiot.

    for 90-10 split, theftjr will end up with 130-140m.

    pac with 30-40m.


    of course, that's unacceptable.

    only idiots would suggest such a split.


    theftjr can only get 90-10 split against someone with zero ppv history.

    but the pie that they are going to split is still much smaller than the one against someone that is proven ppv attraction


    in other words, 50-60 pct of a bigger pie is still big than 90pct of a much smaller pie.

    this is why his projected earnings against pac is still bigger compared to vs. drainelo.

    DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND?/????????????T^&%&*)^^)^*()^)*(%&*
     
  7. MrPR

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    Why not .

    I don't mind a good scrap .

    My style is boxer/puncher mix with a slugger .

    So I have confidence in fighting ANYBODY and holding my own against anyone win/lose/draw
     
  8. progamer

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    ok noob let's settle this.

    50/50 was circa 2008-2010, when it was at it;s biggest.

    3m is a conservative estimate.

    hell, drainelo with ZERO ppv history produced 2m+.

    100$ isnt small considering the fight is that big.


    when it was being negotiated, there was no drainelo fight in the horizon.

    so he wasnt taking a paycut by any means and even if there was the drainelo fight, he was projected to earn more in the pac fight. so no paycut there.


    now ff to the drainelo fight.

    if he is going to take the fight at 60-40 split, he is going to earn somewhere in the 80m range.

    why not 100$? people paid 70 for the noobs like ortreez, guerreros and the caveman. what's 30$ more.


    now even if he takes lower than 80m, say 70m, why is this a big deal?


    he already took a paycut against madona, and twice now.


    why is earning 70-80m against pac a problem when he already took on 32m twice?



    theftjr ddoent believe he can win.

    this paycut **** is jsut *****s conjencture.
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

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    1. 130/30 is NOT 90/10, and you call me and idiot.
    2. I NEVER said Pac should take a 10% split. I said the only way Floyd makes over x amount is if Pac takes a 10% split.
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

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    1) Canelo's PPV history is irrelevant, as evidence by the 2.2 buys vs 2.4 vs de La Hoya, and Oscar holds the record.
    2) $100 is ridiculous no matter who's fighting. Inflation has only brought the price to $70, FIVE YEARS LATER.
    3) I'll give you that, it wouldn't have been a pay cut back then, but they probably wouldn't have made $100 million a piece either, that's projected. No solid numbers. But Pacquiao is asking for 60/40 TODAY, STILL.
    4) I just showed you, at $70, 3 million buys, 60/40 split, Pac makes about $50 million. He refused $40 million. So what's wrong with that? BOTH 40 and 50 would be Pac's highest payday.
    5) Maidana is not Canelo, Maidana is not Pacquiao. That's like saying Pacquiao took a paycut for Bradley 2, he could take one for Floyd, it doesn't work that.
    6) That $32 million is his guarantee from Showtime/Golden Boy. He wouldn't make a guaranteed 70-80 million from Pac, that's a projected revenue split but it's pretty much a given.
    7) That's irrelevant. You say he only takes fights he knows he can win. Wouldn't believing he can win the Pac fight be a cherry pick then? Not my logic, not my belief.
    8 )At this point in time, in 2014, 60/40 is a pay cut at $70 and 3 million buys.

    One more thing to take into consideration, fighting Pacquiao, Top Rank would have to be involved, meaning: ANOTHER SPLIT. They'd make even less than what I posted.