If you were a ref, would you let Hatton...

in this fight against mayweather the only chance hatton has of winning is to employ rough house tactics and spoil and maul mayweather as he did in the tszyu fight.

 

yep but you can have the other extreme where the ref in the roy jones v ruiz fight would not let ruiz rough the faster man up at all and made it into a amatuer type rules fight in effect.

 

Exactly!

Ref Jay Nady psyched Ruiz in the dressing room instructions and continued his verbal assault throughout the fight.

.....anytime Ruiz got within clinching distance with Jones, Nady could be herd yelling instruction, "dont hold, dont hold!"


I was allright with Nady warning Ruiz that he would deduct points for exessive holding......but he went beyond that....he was on Ruiz the whole fight riding him not to hold!

.....and Nady is just a horrible referee when it comes to fighters clinching....he wont let the fighters fight out and close quarters, even when they're not even involved in a clinch......
.....I've seen Nady come in and break the action for just as much as the fighters touching shoulder to shoulder.:-(


If Nady is picked to ref Hatton-Mayweather, Hatton is screwed, because Nady does'nt tolerate alot of what goes on during infighting.

 

hear hear...

 

Don't be so bloody naive. Clinching is a big part of boxing, and it is up to the referee to interpret the rules.

 

A fighter should only hold in desperation. If they just got rocked and need to gather themselves by holding... fine. But holding as part of your fighting technique? :nono

 

I would not let Hatton use holding and grappling as his main game-plan. However, if he walks that line well, I would allow him to express himself completely in the ring. To ensure that he knows where that line is, I would have a quick chat with him before the fight and show him examples which he would get a warning for, from the Tszyu fight.

 

hatton would have been disqualified in his fight with Urango by a lot of referees. The last four rounds or so were nothing but clinching - not even he Ruiz jab and hold, just holding and spoiling continually. He also could have been disqualified agaisnt Collazo. I agree Wright/Hopkins was unwatchable; Hopkins is also one of the absolute worst offenders, not as bad as Hatton or Ruiz but close.

 

So is an elbow to the throat, should be a point deduction for that **** !!!

 

Yeah I would. If you're attacking and then clinch I don't see that as being too bad. What I wouldn't allow is the carry-on that happened towards the end of the Urango fight. He was literally just leaping at the opponent and latching on. No punches even attempted. That is unacceptable.

 

i suggest lots of people watch jack johnsons old fights (spelling), or that footage.

clinching and josseling for position has always been a part of boxing.

infighting is a art in its own.

 

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Hatton can close the distance and outwork Floyd in close, like Castillo did against Mayweather ( even though JLC grabbed with the left arm and nailed him with the right on the blind side of the ref), Fullmer and Basillio did against Sugar Ray, Duran did against Ray Leonard and even Ricky did against Tszyu but it's gonna be very, very hard for him even if the ref allows it... It takes a lot of energy from the aggressor and the other guy can counter short too:

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Let him use a frigg'n baseball bat! Anything to get Floyd KTFO :rofl :rofl

 

The **** i would... Once PBF scores with any punch i would jump in to save Ricky from a beating and call it a Floyd TKO 1 victory.

 

:deal :bbb