If you were Floyd Mayweather, would you give Pac the 50/50?

But at least Oscar did end up fighting, didn't take strategic retirements or wait until they were showing signs of regression (ok, getting off point a little). Pacquaio is to blame too for the fight not happening to an extent, both come out badly out of it.

As for the bit highlighted in green, lets just say we will agree to disagree, haha.

I think they both don't really want the fight to happen. But if Floyd did go for 50-50 split, I think that could make the fight happen and everybody wins. You could say that Manny should take what Floyd offers to make the fight happen but he is fighter of the decade after all and joint P4P with Mayweather so the 40million flat rate offered was a little insulting considering Mayweather would have been taking home 100-120million+. So it is more reasonable for Mayweather to bend a little than Pacquaio I feel, as he also has more to prove.

I don't neglect the business end of things altogether, but if the fight doesn't happen because of this matter of business, it is a sad day for all involved in boxing, not sure if we could call it much of a 'sport' anymore.

Check out my other proposal from a day or 2 ago about the split - http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426524&highlight=Purse+split

 

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Well if he's fraud he's still more than whatever Pac is..

When Tyson accused the guy in your siggy of being dirty...he took the test and kicked Mike's ass..

Too bad Ms Pacman doens't have balls and skills like that

 

Voted no.
Because if I was Mayweather then..I would be Mayweather so... I would say no.. like Mayweather...If I was him...

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Floyd and Manny both gave in and then they fought Oscar. It's beside the point that Oscar fought both of them in their primes.

Sure, if Floyd chooses to get raped in negotiations and take the 50/50, then Manny and Floyd can fight.

The $40 million dollar deal was a fair deal. You figure there is about $105 million TOTAL on the table. Not sure where your getting $150 million from but that is not likely.

Mayweather does not have more to prove than Manny. Floyd has said himself he is confident and unconcerned with his legacy so that is thrown out and really has nothing to do with "the split."

The $40 million offer would have allowed Manny to make $15 million more his high payday of $25 million why Floyd would have went on to make $20 million more his highest payday and he'd get around $65 million. What Floyd offered was very very very fair to both fighters. The 50/50 counter offer was not fair to both fighters as Floyd already makes that type of money anyways.

I'm not asking you to "respect" the business side of it...I'm saying "it's there wether we like it or not and we have to accept it."

Again, I'm looking at it from what makes sense for both fighters. It makes sense for both fighters to take random drug tests. It makes sense for both fighters to make considerable amounts more than they ever did for a fight.

It does not make sense for one fighter (Pacquiao) to make more than double his highest payday ever while the other fighter get's raped and only makes a few million more than his highest payday (around 7 million more).

Your choosing not to look at the numbers, which is fine but it hurts your argument, as the numbers are there wether me or you like it or not or choose to ignore it or not.:good

 

And you believe him?

 

if i was mayweather and i feel very confident of beating pac, i would offer 60-40, 60 to the winner.

 

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This is why we haven't seen this fight. Because of people that think this way. People have to understand that these guys' egos (Bob, Manny, Floyd, GBP, etc) will not budge to who should earn more. That's why I say that the fairest thing I could think of that both can maybe agree is to a 60-40 split and 70-30 if by KO. I can't think of another way for a good agreement to satisfy all parties. I am speaking as a fan of boxing not as a fan of a particular fighter.

 

The best deal has nothing to do with money, it has to do with egos.

 

I think Mayweather does have more to prove than Manny, whether he says he cares or not about legacy, still doesn't change the fact. In that case he shouldn't be proclaiming himself as the best. As it stands Pacquaio will probably be rated more highly on the ATG list.


I'm looking at the business side too but from a different angle. Mayweather doesn't fight Pacquaio, what are his options? Rematch with Cotto, probably wont do as good numbers as the first fight, people still slate him for avoiding Pacquaio. Martinez, Canelo? These too wont bring in as much money and are probably higher risk, and are probably still options after a Pacquaio fight. So, from a business sense, he can make more money fighting Pacquaio full stop. It's a jar half-full half-empty thing. Instead of thinking of the few million more he feels he may be deserving of, think of the amount he will still get for one fight (biggest of his career) with arguably less risk than the other options.


Also, in a Mayweather-Pacquaio fight, you will have casual fans who never buy PPV normally, or people who wouldn't usually buy a Mayweather or Pacquaio fight. Even personally, I will not buy a Mayweather or Pacquaio fight unless it is against each-other, I know lots of people who are the same, and its not 60 or 70% want to see Mayweather, but because 100% of them want to see both at the same time. I don't know the numbers exactly but I'll use this to demonstrate my point: So you have 3 types of people who buy the PPV. The people who buy if for Mayweather (lets say 10mil) the people who buy it for Pacquaio (lets say 5mil) and the people who buy it because its both against each other (50mil). Total = 65 million, 30mil for Pac 35mil for Mayweather. So his offer of 40million was b/s enough because he needs Pac to make such high numbers and bring in the casual fans that make up a majority.


Last point, and this illustrates how we differ. It does not make sense for 'Money' Mayweather of 'The Money Team' to turn down money, do the biggest PPV in history potentially set up a possible rematch, and still have the Canelo's, Martinez's as options in the future if he wanted.

 

Why do Floydiots continue to ignore the fact that Cotto is the 3rd biggest draw in boxing. Cotto drew 650k PPV against Margarito II.

So 1.5 Million - 650K according to Floydiot logic is 850K. That in the same ball park as Pac/Bradley, which drew 900K.

 

Hell no. The casual fan doesnt give a **** about Manny anymore therefore he doesn't draw **** and really back then unless you count Bob's figures didn't draw what people think he's drawn. Hype doesn't equal tangible dollars so for you idiots who think Manny should get 50/50. YDKSB(Business).

 

he's ranked number 1 in 2 divisions. How about that

man did you see Pac's last 2 fights? Both winners in those fights didn't go home with their hand raise. Screw that