If You were Wlad, and Haye had pulled out of two fights, already

Then why promote any fight? Seriously, you sound like a ****ing idiot.

I can't believe you have such a poor grasp of marketing. I studied business and marketing at university and I know how important it is. I don't think you have the faintest of clues.

 

Exactly. For RTL, it's probably ok because they can sell Wlad regardless of his outcomes but for HBO and Sky? If Chisora beats Wlad, that would **** everything up for these two companies because Chisora would be signed to an immediate rematch, which means no Haye/Wlad fight. It would be cancelled and Wlad's next fight would be a Chisora rematch a few months down the line. Anyone who seriously thinks HBO and Sky would spend millions promoting a bout which they potential would never see happen, is being ridiculous.

Sky and HBO stand to lose a lot if Chisora landed a lucky punch. RTL would be fine, yeah, because a Wlad/Chisora rematch would be huge in Germany but for the other companies who would spend a lot of money buying the fight and promoting it, they'd be ****ed. That's just the TV companies too, what about all the companies who spend money on advertisement and thinks like that?

All it would take is one lucky shot for a lot of companies to lose a lot of money.

 

To be honest, I think HBO would cover this fight if they decided to fight in Vegas which Wlad opted against, despite his (I'll fight you anywhere and anytime) video.

 

I want to know why no Klitschko fans have defended that. Wlad said he'd fight anywhere, any time. Yet a deal was offered for May and because he couldn't get a German stadium, the fight didn't happen. It could have took place any time (May) and anywhere (Vegas or Britain) yet Wlad obviously isn't too keen on the idea.

Wlad says "Haye is a liar", his fans lap it up. However, Wlad blatantly lied, so how can you believe a proven liar, when he is calling someone else out as being one? If a liar calls someone else a liar, surely they're the one telling the truth?

 

Then they go on with David Haye vs David Chisora... which would then be huge in England.

Sounds like a win-win to me.

 

You're dumb. I never once said that any fight didn't need promoted or that there is no point in promoting. You are just too ****ing stupid to understand what I typed. I can't dumb it down anymore for you.

 

Except that would be after two more fights, against both brothers. If Chisora beats Wlad, he has to fight him again and if he wins that fight, it's Vitali next. By that time, Haye will have been long retired.

But that's just impossible. If Chisora actually won, everything after would need to be renegotiated.

I know you didn't. I was making a point about what you said and taking it to an extreme. I didn't literally mean that.

But, anyway, your logic is just wrong. Promotion is essential to draw in casual fans who buy into the hype. It's always been the case not just within boxing but other sports, and even non-sports. I said earlier that right now, the fight would do about 300,000 buys in the UK but it's capable of over a million. They should do all the promotion necessary to ensure that happens.

It's a pretty pointless argument though. I can't imagine Sky or HBO banking on a Haye/Wlad fight when Wlad has a bout weeks before. It's just too risky for them.

 

See those yellow and black Setanta logos in the background, thats the reason it didnt happen, that channel went bust along with Haye's paycheck.

Legitimate pull out.

Not the same as right now with Wlads ***** job.

P.S Haye destroys Wlad if the fight somehow gets saved.

 

If that was the case then he should have said it. Also, didn't that channel go "bust" AFTER that fight was supposed to happen? If it was so legit... why did Haye feel that he had to lie about an injury?

 

If the fight somehow gets saved?

You mean if little ***** Haye signs? It's not rocket science. Wlad destroys Chisora, who is a total bum, then 9 weeks later destroys Haye.

How hard does it have to be? Sign. Fight. Done.

 

So, how long would that leave Haye hanging for a fight???

After all, isn't that the reason Wlad put the whole chisora thing in, for if/when Haye pulled out - because it would leave him too long without a fight?

 

I believe Haye was somehow told of Setanta's financial position just before the fight.

The fact that Setanta didn't announce it until after the fight is irrelevant.

Having worked for a company that went bankrupt, I know it can be illegal, and may also result in jail time for the directors of a company if they knowingly trade while insolvent.

It may be either somebody in Setanta has approached Haye and his manager off the record - without the knowledge of management, and told them of the situation, so they've backed out themselves, knowing as creditors they may end with something like 1 cent in the dollar being paid out,

OR,

somebody within Setanta's management may have approached Booth and Haye, told them of the situation and asked them to do something like that, so they didn't incur more huge debts. But asking them not to reveal the real situation so as not to spook creditors, so getting them to manufacture an injury.



That kind of thing happens all the time. I'd be very surprised if somebody didn't tell Haye and his team of the situation with Setanta's finances.

 

Yeah... and it's Wlad who wants to stay active... not Haye. It is Wlad who would already be inactive for 10 months if he waits to fight Haye on July 2nd... let alone if Haye pulled out... again.

David Haye has done nothing to make the Klitschkos think that this time he is going to follow through with the fight. He has pulled out of fights and negotiations left and right... why should Wlad put his trust in Haye and just shelf himself for another 6 months again?

It's like the boy who cried wolf.... only Haye is STILL crying wolf.

 

Haye is a "proven" liar and contract breaker! All his has to do is sign the contract, but Haye is a liar.