If Zab loses...

. . . then it's all over for him.

 

Say what you will about Zab, he fought the best and wasn't afraid to lose. If he hadn't been trained and managed by the biggest ****ing ****** in boxing-his dumbass father Yoel Judah, then he could have done a lot more.

 

I agree. His father's loud and yelling attitude in tough times was all wrong for Judah. What Judah needed was someone to actually calm him down and give him good instructions. But Joel would just scream at him like a moron.

 

You sure about that I thought zab had hardly any fights before turning pro

 

Yea. Plus what kind of a moron loses a fight to Baldomir, a guy leaghes below him in talent and then schedules his next fight with Mayweather? Yoel's a ****ing idiot and Zab may be the most mismanaged guy in boxing.

 

But i think it also has to do with the training. Joel seems to concentrate way too much on offensive explosion. That's why Judah tires. He let's it all out. How about defense and better using his talent?

 

You're reading me wrong brother. Zab woulda lost to Kostya 100 times out of a hundred like Angelo Dundee said. Kostya was a better fighter. That still don't mean that Zab would not have done better than he did in his career.

 

well, it was also because of comparing him to what he was EXPECTED to be. People forget, but Mark Breland was THE star of that team, its Sugar Ray, its Golden Boy. He was expected to be THE pro fighter, better than Taylor, Whittaker, Holyfield, all of them. He had had, by far, the best amateur career - in fact, one of the best amateur careers ever.

Because his pro career was so ordinary, better only than Tyrell Biggs, who wasn't really expected to be much, he is thought of as a massive under-achiever. And compared to his success at the amateur level, he was.

Judah wasn't quite as touted, and certainly not as accomplished an amateur - but then again, as you point out, he hasn't achieved as much as Breland either. At different levels, they're very similar cases in that respect, imo.

 

Breland also had a WAY better amateur career than Zab.

 

A shame, too. He had a lot of promise.

 

Well, Witter's a good win. Not that that's a lot on its own, and certainly doesn't refute your point about his career being largely unfulfilled promise...but it's a good win.

 

I think so, seein' as I think Witter would beat Hatton at this point.

 

If Zab loses, his career is pretty much over.