If Zaggers only beat a shot Hopkins then Ward only beat a shot Froch

That right Calzaghe haters and Ward fans. (Or the delusional hypocrites as you are commonly known).

Let's look at the evidence.

Hopkins was 7 years older than Calzaghe when they fought. Hopkins was 43, 'Zaggers was 36.

Froch was 7 years older than Ward when they fought. Froch was 34, PED test avoiding Ward was 27.

Now before all you Hopkins****s chime in going the former duo was older than the latter, take a quote from the Popkins himself "You don't last long in this sport proving you can take a punch". Froch has made a career of doing that thus he will fade much young than Hopkins (and thus Calzaghe who was open to a bit of a tear up, younger than Ward).

Now let's compare Froch and Hopkins runs, going in and coming out either side of the Ward and Joe C fights.

3 fights out
Hopkins, loses close fight to Jermaine Taylor
Froch, loses close fight to Mikkel Kessler

2 fights out
Hopkins wins as an underdog in dominate fashion against Antonio Tarver
Froch wins as an underdog in dominate fashion against Arthur Abraham

1 fight out
Hopkins- wins on points to the slightly faded yet still game Winky Wright
Froch- wins on points to the slightly faded yet still game Glen Johnson

The fight
Hopkins-loses a close points (but should've been wider) verdict to Joe Calzaghe
Froch- loses a close points (but should've been wider) verdict to Andre Ward
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1st fight past
Hopkins- easily defeats undefeated betting favorite Kelly Pavlik
Froch- easily defeats undefeated betting favorite Lucian Bute

2nd fight past
Hopkins- beats journeyman Enrique Ornelas with little trouble
Froch- beats journeyman Yusaf Mack with little trouble

3rd fight past
Hopkins- beats faded Calzaghe victim Roy Jones
Calzaghe- beats faded Calzaghe victim Mikkel Kessler

4th fight past
Hopkins- draws with Jean Pascal but is controversial
Froch- beats George Groves but is controversial

5th fight past
Hopkins- beats Pascal in rematch ending controversy
Froch- beats Groves in rematch ending controversy
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:deal

 

I'm not saying either was shot though, so that's my argument.

Look at Hopkins and Froch's immediate achievements pre and post those losses- very similar.

Froch will fade faster than Hopkins due to the way they fight. That is a fact. Like Brandon Rios will fade faster than Guillermo Rigondeaux. As Hopkins says- you don't last long proving you can take a punch and Froch has done well making it this far as a significant fighter.

 

This one has shut the Hopkins only lost because he was shot crowd up...:happy

 

Ermmm, yes they do.

And I am 100% convinced nobody who has watched the fight and has one iota of boxing knowlege really believes that Hopkins won that fight. Hopkins himself doesn't really thing that


So, are you trolling or do you lack boxing knowledge.

 

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You do realise the fight took place in Hopkins back yard, on a card where he was a business partner and his partners picked the ref and the judges. So if anyone was getting screwed it was Calzaghe

Plus you believe when Hopkins pulled his crybaby face, it was a low blow even though it was nowhere near low. So it's not like you are unbiased.

 

Yep. 100% convinced. You are probably both trolling and know nothing about boxing. About what I'd expect from a Broner fan anyway.

I know punch stats don't always tell the full story but not sure if there has been a fight in history where one boxer has outlanded another every single round where people would think the other guy won. But Calzaghe did create a lot of hate going 17-0 against your Yank heroes. :hi:

 

Refute what I said. If Hopkins was shot when he fought Zaggers, having an extremely similar run either side, then so was Froch who is Ward's best win. :hi:

 

A Wilder fan ain't much better.