ignore criticsm of resume, where does rjj rank atg.

somewhere in the late 20's or early 30's.

 

30s

 

based on skill 4, on accomplishments 10 11

 

Jones was not unbeatable, even at his best. His major flaw was the lack of a solid chin. If you're comparing Roy against the all time greats P4P , having such a major flaw would be exploited, especially over 15 rounds.

 

Head to head and talent he is top 3 for me...

Based on resume and talent (over all greatness) I would say he is top 30

 

agreed:good either this or spud who has him in top 4. top 30 placement is more than fair given his resume (though I have him higher)

plain and simple he was arguably the most athletically gifted fighter ever.

 

I'm not sure you can compare skills if not proven against suitable opposition. Jones' resume isn't stellar once he got to 175. From 154 - 168 he fought decent opponents and at 175, some good guys and some bums.

But he never faced the best guys around for whatever reason, so it's hard to really assess him. He didn't get tested often and, when he did, he got flattened by Tarver.

 

How can you ignore criticism of his resume? Its the number one factor in rating people in ATG status.

 

i maintain that, bizarrely, if jones struggled with his opponents they'd look better and as a result, his legacy would improve. i refuse to punish him because he consistently and routinely completely dominated top 10 opposition. he made good fighters look like children and i can't say he wouldn't be great fighters as a result