ignore criticsm of resume, where does rjj rank atg.

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  1. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it was more a matter of his athletic ability being the ideal springboard for his skills.
     
  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    And that's why he dominated them both and won is it?
     
  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Another idiot that didnt saw the fights.you dont even know that he was disqualified against Griffin in their first fight.

    He didnt dominate either one in fact he was even losing in one of the scorecards at the time he was disqualified against Griffin. in the second fight between the two he completely obliterated Griffin but i was discussing the first fight on the other post not the second,and the Harding fight is one of the worst fights i've ever seen,it was mostly a staring contest with both trying to out feint each other and both scared to lead from fear of being counterpunched,i cant even remember one decent shot landed the entire fight.
     
  4. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    In terms of physical ability, he's in the top 3 (if not #1). Because of that ability, skills didn't really matter - until the ability started to fade.

    Obviously that doesn't answer the question regarding "skills". I can't answer that since he relied on reflexes and not on skills.
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I guess it all depends how you define skills.

    I would use the word ability. I think RJJ is one of the 30 best of all time.
     
  6. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    This thread needs this terribly.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMOIASKueXA[/ame]
     
  7. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i can say that griffin's performances against toney in two fights and jones in the first solidify his position as a solid contender. jones DID have a ton of trouble and let's be honest, he was ****ing frustrated against montel. i think he'd get to him eventually but it was by far his toughest fight in his prime
     
  8. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    :goodfair post
     
  9. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As an athlete he was astonishing, one of the very best, but as was stated earlier his boxing skills were not as impresive.
    As for fighters who I think would've beaten him?

    SRR
    Monzon
    Hagler
    Ezzard Charles
    Archie Moore
    Bob Foster
    Michael Spinks

    People who would be very competive with him-

    Dwight Qawi
    John Conteh
    Eddie Mustapha Muhammed
    Harold Johnson

    There's others but my knowledge of boxing history isn't really broad enough.
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Griffin was a solid contender with a style that could make anyone look bad i was just pointing out that Jones first fight with Griffin is a bad example if you want to make a case about Roy being unbeatable like the other poster was trying to make.

    BTW i had Toney beating Griffin twice in two very close fights.
     
  11. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    oh i totally agree. griffin 2 is a good argument though:hey
     
  12. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Most def :yep
     
  13. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where does Tyson rank in terms of skill
     
  14. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    :lol::lol::good
     
  15. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    skill alone, my top 10 heavies all time