Ike Ibeabuchi v. Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Nov 6, 2017.


Page 2 of 2
  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    Byrd protested the stoppage. I said its very possible, not that it would have happened.

    Byrd was stopped on the ropes, have you seen the fight? He slipped like 90% of Ike's barrage and the ref stopped it.
    This content is protected

    I think you are confused.

    Hell, even HBO thought Tua won and they were pretty biased towards Ike. It wasn't a clear win for Ike in any way shape or form. He faded in the closing rounds for one.

    Nobody knocks ike on here for his performance because he's pretty overrated. You'll find people on here commonly claiming that he could beat Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, and Liston easily.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    #16
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,578
    Jan 30, 2014
    False. Tua was the popular, hyped rising star. Ike was still an unknown commodity.
     
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    #17
    ForemanJab, Pat M and Contro like this.
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,578
    Jan 30, 2014
    What makes you think they were pretty biased toward Ike?
     
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    #18
    ForemanJab, Pat M and Contro like this.
  4. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,882
    4,700
    Jun 7, 2016
    HBO biased for Ike? What are you smoking?? Larry Merchant even admits during the fight that he had never heard of Ike Ibeabuchi hahahaba
     
    Contro, Nov 7, 2017
    Contro, Nov 7, 2017
    #19
    Pat M likes this.
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    61,561
    46,157
    Feb 11, 2005
    Ike
     
    Seamus, Nov 7, 2017
    Seamus, Nov 7, 2017
    #20
  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    The fact that they had Ike up 3 rds to 1 against Byrd before the stoppage.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    #21
  7. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    Any evidence to support this?
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    #22
  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    Merchant wasn't the one keeping the hbo scorecard. Try to follow along.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    #23
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,354
    Jun 29, 2007
    A man who flattened Byrd with one punch and stood toe to toe with the best version if David Tua is unproven?

    Ike wins inside of 5 rounds. I'd bet three months mortgage he would.
     
    Mendoza, Nov 7, 2017
    Mendoza, Nov 7, 2017
    #24
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,354
    Jun 29, 2007
    Mr.DagoWop said: [url]↑[/url]
    He didn't beat Tua imo and according to a lot of people, me included. A very unconvincing win. Ibeabuchi profited from being a well liked fighter.

    He lost all but one of the rounds against Byrd and Byrd could have continued had the ref not stopped it. It's very possible that Byrd could have won a decision had he been allowed to continue. The guy is supposed to be a world class puncher but this is only based upon a dodgy stoppage against Byrd.

    Wilder has dominated his opponents in a way Ibeabuchi never came close to.

    Thanks Mike. We have a few silly posters here. I have not seen you post before. Stick around, there is some good stuff here. You're 100% right on your comments.
     
    Mendoza, Nov 7, 2017
    Mendoza, Nov 7, 2017
    #25
  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,578
    Jan 30, 2014
    It's common knowledge. I was really into heavyweight boxing back then but even some casuals were beginning to hear about Tua. He was being hyped like the second coming of Tyson or something (by Duva and others). Ibeabuchi was an unknown African guy who was training in Dallas with Curtis Cokes.

    As for evidence though, it should be pretty obvious in the fight and prefight commentary.
     
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    #26
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,578
    Jan 30, 2014
    Byrd won the first round and arguably lost the rest. I don't see how that's a controversial scorecard. In any event, HBO might have been partial to Ike's style over that of Chris Byrd (who Merchant was extremely biased against) but that fight was a year and a half after Ike had his coming out party against Tua.
     
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    mrkoolkevin, Nov 7, 2017
    #27
  13. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

    1,370
    241
    Mar 31, 2013
    I had Ike taking all the rounds beyond the first. Byrd rolled well with shots and it didn't take Ike long to figure out his rhythm. He had hooks waiting for Byrd at every turn and the end result wasn't long coming.

    From what Ive seen from both men , I'd favour Ike to chop Wilder down in the mid rounds.
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2017
    Outstock, Nov 7, 2017
    Outstock, Nov 7, 2017
    #28
    mrkoolkevin likes this.
  14. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    Byrd looked like he won em to me
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    #29
  15. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    I guess I could dig that
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 7, 2017
    #30
Page 2 of 2