Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano

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  1. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No.
     
  3. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Ike Ibeabuchi TKO 3

    Ike is just too big,fast,strong,heavy.

    everything Marciano has, Ike has, and is better.
    I know the old timers who defend the champions of the past will go ape **** at that but i just don't see how he could possibly beat someone of Ikes skill level and size.
     
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  4. thunder06

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  5. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is an excellent fight. Very, very similar to the Tua fight. But i tend to think Rocky has a little better work rate than Tua and finishes the fight a little stronger. Still, I say Rocky wins a disputed and close but fair decision.
     
  6. janitor

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    This would be a classic and make no mistake, there is a verry real chance of Ibeabuchi taking it.

    I tend to think however that Marciano is a little more refined than Tua and probably edges it where Tua failed.
     
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  7. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, Tua was essentially a Marciano clone, heavier but with inferior skill, conditioning, workrate, and two-handed power. Tua very arguably beat Ibeabuchi(all of the commentators and many fans had Tua winning that fight). I imagine that Marciano takes a close, hard-fought decision in a 12-rounder, possbly a late stoppage in a 15-rounder depending on how good Ibeabuchi's 15-round stamina was.
     
  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Another difference between Tua and Marciano is that Marciano was a lot less predictable. Marciano came off with weird shots leaning from strange angles whereas Tua was more a text book left hooker with a relatively weak right.
     
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  9. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, exactly. With Tua, you can always expect a guy who comes more or less straight in and throws a conventional left hook as a knockout punch. With Marciano, there are knockout punches coming from both hands with different types of shots and from all angles all night long.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Very good fight in which I think Marciano would win by unanimous decision
     
  11. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly Marciano would get inside of a fighters timing with his weird angles and ability to fire off a knock out punch with a short powerfull snap of 1000lbs of pressure, A lot of people gave Tua the nod with IKE, I like Marciano in this by a UD or a late KO...Its hard to judge IKE because we saw little of him but I give him the best of the unknown senario
     
  12. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Rocks awkwardness works well in this fight...as it did in all of his 49 victories
    Marciano by KO......
     
  13. omega dega Doom

    omega dega Doom New Member Full Member

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    oh damn this will be a no win thread! marciano never fought anyody worth a damn at least n their prime! he wouldn't even be considered a heavyweight nowadays him weighing in at 185-188 he would be just a cruiserweight at best! Ike would KO him within 1-2 rounds! sorry old timers but the truth is going to hurt on this one!:good
     
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  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Ike is not in terms of greatness. He would be in this fight, however.

    Ike is much bigger, and it would show in more ways than appearance.

    If Marciano were just a little larger, I would pick him by something.

    I think that Marciano may be able to hit as hard as Ike, maybe even have more penetration effect to his punches, he just isn't as physically strong as Ibeabuchi.

    I feel Ibeabuchi's work rate would be the difference. I started to say Ike by narrow decision, but this may not go the distance. Ike throw a lot of punches, and hits very hard. Marciano would get hit a lot. Ike by stoppage. Marciano's face would not allow the officials to let the fight run its full course. People would be very upset, because this would be a war and Marciano would be very much in the fight.
     
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  15. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I know what you mean, Homicidal Hank. Some people think he was the greatest ever, no matter what.

    They may realize that he may have been the toughest fighter ever, and was one hell of a puncher for his size. Then they think that would carry him past every heavyweight ever. They seem oblivious to look at the fighters Rocky defeated in his most notable wins. They don't seem to look at the fact that Walcott was the oldest man to win the title at the time of Walcott's crowning. He was 37. A record that stood for around 40 years. They don't pay attention to the blown up light heavyweight, Ezzard Charles, being past his prime. They don't notice that Moore, the blown up light heavyweight, was in his 40's. They look at his 49-0 record, and forget he only made 6 title defenses.