Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano

The toe to toe war with Tua gave him the headaches that started all his mental problems and I am sure Byrd would excuse his loss to ike as a bad fight. Byrd was doing pretty well until he got caught. Ike was a good prospect but it is just two wins! what kind of resume is that? The first win started the problems that ended ibeabuchi's career.

 

Ike had the headache issues before the Tua fight in sparring and certainly had the mental instability issues OUTSIDE of the ring before.

And what this has to do with him beating down Marciano I am still not sure of...

 

stability.


i read it was the Tua fight, where it started and all of his recorded incidents occurred between the Tua and byrd fights.

 

Wilson was stopped only once in his lenghty career (on cuts) despite facing numerous big punchers.

Wilson was very good at surviving.

Ike still was pretty raw by the time he faced Wilson.


Ibeabuchi didn't experience any problems with E.Davis.

Ike never got out of second gear, routinely throwing 60-70 punches per round.

He easily finished Davis.

It was just a warm-up fight to shake off some ring rust.

 

No he wasn't, watch the fight Ike landed all the meaningful punches and was beating the crap out of Byrd before he caught him

So yes he only has 2 good wins, Marciano only has about 7-8 good opponents out of his 49 wins and only a past it Louis was over 200lbs

 

You're saying Ibeabuchi hit harder than Marciano now? You threw objectivity out the window a long time ago but thats just a pityful statment.....If Byrd sat on the ropes and let Rock hit him clean with a Suzie Q he would of left the ring on a stretcher. Byrd wasn't even off his feet when he was tko'd by Ike...........He wouldn't of lasted a wet week in the early to mid 90's and a prime Holyfield would of battered him into submission....You can celebrate his win over the relic Holyfield who couldn't punch through a wet slice of bread to your hearts content because nobody else does.

 

So did Marciano

 

A good puncher is a good puncher. A knockout punch is a knockout punch but a world class puncher can connect against other world class fighters and knock them out too.. Its not so much that they hit so much harder its just that they have the talent to catch the best fighters with their best punch.

maybe there is some strong dude who never fought in his life who can put down walls with both hands but it wouldn't matter if he couldn't fight or time a punch in a combat situation against someone trained to avoid being hit.

I am not going to say one guy hit harder than the other because both produced knockouts. Even if you could prove who hits harder its who lands first against the best guy that counts. It is a shame ibeabuchi was never going to control himself after his fist tough fight because he never got to be a great fighter or knock out any world champions.

it is kind of unfair to compare.

 

Total bull****.

He sat amongst the best 3 in the world for a number of years.

He was a solid established top 5 contender for fukin ages.

If that ain't elite I dunno what is.

 

chris was never ever regarded as the best heavyweight in the world. He was rated among the best 3 for about 4 years between 01' and 06' but there was quite a gulf between 2 and 3 during that era. During his prime byrd drew with golata,had a SD with jameel mcline and outpointed a faded holyfeild. no great shakes.

 

no great shakes? are for real?

there are only 3 spots in the top 3, out of every man on earth he was one of those 3. in the hw division, you know what that means? it means that only a handful of people on the entire planet would be expected to beat him. what more do you want from the guy?

a faded holy who gave lewis arguably his toughest fight and split a series with ruiz arguably winning the rubber match. he also outpointed a prime david tua. he had vitali quit rather than finish a fight against him.

calling this man any less than an elite boxer is an absolute joke.

 

ridiculous aint it mate.

 

Dont forget shot to **** Golota was robbed of the win and beat Byrd babystepping around the ring unable to throw a jab or any power shots. He dropped him twice and wasn't scored for either knockdown.....Nobody would be talking about him if it weren't for is two loses to Wlad and his default victory against Vitali..... He was elite the same way Toney was an elite heavy.....My own eyes told me everything i needed to know about the guy and the prognosis was that he was useless.

 

So the hard hitting 185 pounder punches harder than the hard hitting 235 pounder?

Oh, that's right, I forget that in the Classic Forum weight divisions are an artificial construct created to keep down the wee fellers who would otherwise rule every division, even one filled with fighters 50 pounds heavier. I will try to remember this in the future.

 

then thank **** you dont have any say in official boxing rankings.