Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano

I do.

Rocky was toppled by sub-200 pounders while Tua withstood the full arsenal of Lewis, Ibeabuchi, Rahman and Maskeav, punches in another stratosphere compared to those Marciano faced, and he NEVER tasted the canvas until he was a burned out, ancient 38.

 

Did he withstand the full arsenal though? He retreated from Lewis when he tasted his power. Maskaev can hit but his accuracy is shockingly bad how often did he land his big shots?

Rocky was dropped by quick shots from Walcott and Moore but they're the kinda punches that big heavy types don't throw. Rocky didnt see them coming, I can't see Ike catching him by surprise and unless you do that it'll take something special power wise to stop the rock.

My main point wasn't a specific comparison about the fighters though more about the weight. Two guys same height but one is heavier does that by default mean he takes a better shot?

 

Whats makes you think Ike hit harder than Walcot?

 

Ike , Lewis especially Wlad looked impressive bombing people out who were throwing nothing back. Rock gets hit he answers back with double, tripple..... and the output never stops,never.

 

Lewis unloaded everything, hook, right, uppercuts on Tua, retreating or not. Maskaev did very well in their fight and was landing hard shot. That's a fight I was actually at... And expected a Ruiz like finish. It was not to happen.

No, size by default does not equal greater punch resistance in specific cases, tho it does in general. But more protean to this discussion, Tua demonstrated a better chin against more powerful opposition. Whatever the reason for this is immaterial. It is just so.

 

like all true superheavyweights. the giants are great only if they land first and control the pace. it takes longer for the big guys to react as spontaneously within a punch for punch exchange ,,,,so that's why they don't do it.

 

Won't some balding, diminutive, sloped-shouldered Son of Abruzzi with baby arms please come along save us from the these oversized, long, athletic Neanderthals who through trickery and deceit have co-opted the division?

Won't anyone think of the children?!

 

smaller heavyweights will come back. david haye and marco huck proved that they can live with these giants. i am a fan of heavyweights who can fight as smoothly as boxers of a lower weight, i have no fascination for tall muscular bodybuilders trying to outsize the competition.

 

Your laborious attempt at wit is making me feel embarrassed for you.... Have your big Wlad who needed David Haye to get on HBO and sell PPV before he went back to Euro obscurity and be happy with him.

 

I think you have cornered the market on embarrassment for the week.

I don't think I have ever watched a Wlad fight twice, for what it is worth. And I have DVD copies of every available Marciano fight that I watch a couple times a year. Yes, I prefer my heavies smooth and aggressive. I thought Povetkin was going to be that but he has wasted his talent. Still, I must tip my non proverbial hat to dominance, and that is what Waldo has brought to the division.

 

It didn't do much for Ottke and Calzaghe who is only remembered for Kessler out of his 21 SMW defences.

 

ah i see so your not just saying tua has a better chin because he's bigger, you're saying tua has a better chin full stop and any assumption about what rock can take based on what tua can take is false.

i suppose their is merit to that. like i say though short sneaky punches that a shorter man can not see coming are rarely thrown by a bigger opponent. therefor being dropped by a shot you can't see coming by jersey does not mean you'll get dropped by a shot you can see coming from ike.

an example is like briggs, he was completely befuddled by the variety of shots coming from lewis that countered his own up close, and he was dropped thrice. against vitali he saw every shot from a mile off but was just unable to avoid it and he walked through him for the full 12.

i don't think ike has the raw power needed to clean rocky' clock and i don't think he has the handspeed to drop him as the lighter opposition did. i see their fight shaping up like ike v tua, but with rocky doind just a bit better, and as i had that fight a draw it means i pick rocky by close points decision.