Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano

Exactly as much proof as points to Marciano being a juicer. The dude was 225 at 20 years old in fit trim. You are grasping for straws.

When will these pathetic attempts to match Marciano against guys who are of elite talent and exponentially bigger athletes cease? It is the greatest delusion theatrics on display on this board.

I just wish you were all laying money down back when I was a wagering fellow.

 

For all you know Marciano could've knocked Ike dead the first time he laid a glove on him...

Also as is common amongst juicers all of what remains of Ike's once adonis like physique is nothing more than fat now.

 

For all I know, Jimmy Wilde would have KO'd him dead. But I certainly wouldn't bet on it.

Ever seen a picture of Marciano later in life? He wasn't exactly slim.

I had a good enough physique to model for photogs in my 20's. I ain't so proud of it now, no matter how hard I work out.

People get old. Ike is 40.

 

Some juiced up bonehead from Nigeria does not deserve to be mentioned next to the great Rocky Marciano.

I'd love to see Rocky land his suzie Q right on the button on an enraged Ike, lights out.

 

When did a cosmetic physique win fights on its own?

Any fighter has to have at least realised his potential in his own time before a comparison can be made against a genuine ATG who has paid his dues.

Ike did not realise his potential, there is little to go on.

The elephant in the room is would we have even heard of Ike if he was not juiced?

What kind of fighter would he have been without enhancers?

 

Exactly it's a fantasy matchup with no real idea of how it could unfold beyond speculation, to dismiss others opinions because they arn't yours is silly when the subject topic is fantasy.


Marciano was a relativley short, italian, known for his appetite who struggled with weight his entire life, he had to work VERY, VERY hard to make it to 185. Ibeabuchi went from looking like a Mr Olympia contestant to this...

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Under 5 years. And it's not like one can really pig out in prison.

 

quite a transformation.

 

Ike beating Marciano like Ike beat Tina. It really is like a man versus a woman here with all due respect to Rockita, anyone picking Marciano is biased or doesn't have a clue about boxing. It's like picking Lamotta over Joe Louis, such is the size difference

 

Marciano is too small for Ike.. I think Ike stops him in 3 or 4.

 

Ike probably stops Rock in the mid rounds.

 

With my own eyes ive seen juiced up ,chissled tanks quit out, half way through strenght and conditioning sessions while smaller weaker looking guys out worked them and out lifted them.
Ive seen welter sized kickboxers bounce heavyweights from post to post.
In martial art compititions there are no weight divisions.
Anybody basing the outcome of a fight on size alone dont know **** about box.

Ike only ever beat a useless Byrd who was stupid enough to hang on the ropes against the much heavier hitter than himself and Tua who never won a title and was the fattest man to ever fight for one.

 

It's not about size alone, it's the fact Ibeabuchi has A Level skills and has 60lbs more muscle on him and can throw 90punches a round, while taking the best punch off 1 of the biggest punchers of all time.

We're not talking about a pseudo bodybuilder who can't fight here. And those 2 wins you discount are a better 2 wins than a good few top15 HWs have.

If you're discounting size I doubt you've even sparred much

 

I know how hard it is fighting a bigger guy....But im not arguing my chances against Ibeabuchi or any other amateur, im disputing the chances of one of the the most fearless, relentless, iron chinned , hardest hitting all time great heavy weights. ....

 

You've got this knife throwing dope...who hears voices in his head thinking it's the devil
beating the fiercest,most determined and relentless fighter who ever?

 

I am still waiting for someone to offer more proof than their bull**** armchair opinion that Ike was on PED's.

As far as Ike quitting half way through a workout. I have a pretty good tape of him throwing 950 punches in 12 rounds and not quitting for a second.

The rest of your points are as mindless as we have been accustomed to. Byrd was hardly a "stupid" boxer, quite the opposite. And Tua was a fit and ready 226 for Ike. Why I even bother respond to such inanity, I do not know.