Ike Ibeabuchi vs the following

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Ibeabuchi vs

  1. beats Ali

    50.0%
  2. beats Lewis

    50.0%
  3. beats Bowe

    25.0%
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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Life and death? There were no knockdowns.
     
  2. Man_Machine

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    Byrd didn't know what day it was. Now there's a guy, in a time and a place, where your metaphor really applies.
     
  3. Mr.DagoWop

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    Watch the fight footage. Byrd looked like he could have continued. The bell rang before the fight was stopped, if Byrd had a minute of straight rest he would have recovered.
     
  4. Man_Machine

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    Yeah - OK - Nostradamus.
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

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    You sound very ignorant right now.
     
  6. Man_Machine

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    Really? I'm not the one claiming that, had Byrd been allowed to continue, he would have recovered, as if it's a matter of fact. Moreover, the Ref has to make the call in that moment; not consider how long there's left in the round.

    The bell hadn't rung, when the fight was stopped, as you claim, and the official time of the stoppage was 2:59 of the fifth round, which seems to tally with HBO's clock.

    Moreover, the Ref would have been quite within his rights to stop the bout as soon as the second KD occurred. It was clear, at this point, that Byrd was unable to evade Ibeabuchi and he wasn't throwing anything back.

    Byrd's own words:
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  7. Mr.DagoWop

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    It was a shitty call by the ref. Byrd was responding and fully aware. Ibeabuchi was walking back to his corner and was surprised himself at the stoppage. You are just arguing technical rules and not actually watching the fight. Probably because you know Ibeabuchi got a gift stoppage there.

    I couldn't care less what Byrd's own words were. If you think that Byrd didn't want to finish the round and get the full minute of rest then you're just another idiot.

    The ref is supposed to stop the fight if he thinks the fighter can't protect themselves. Byrd for sure could protect himself and with there only being a second left in the rd he would have survived.
     
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    To use your words: "You sound very ignorant right now."
     
  9. The Kentucky Cobra

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    Speculation doesn't matter, the fact of the matter is he was aware enough to avoid Ike's combinations and finish the round.

    He may or may not have rebounded in Round 6, but I believe he deserved the chance. You are the one speaking in certainties.

    But the ref did not stop the bout after the second KD occured. And Byrd was able to evade Ibeabuchi. Not just by covering up but by actually slipping his punches with head and upper body movement.


    But Byrd also protested the stoppage if you are going that route. Just because he didn't pull a Zab Judah and attack the ref in the post fight doesn't mean he agreed with the stoppage. He yells at the ref when he's looking to step in and protests when the bout is waved off. Come on...
     
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    Yet you're the one arguing that Byrd couldn't survive the rest of the round which had 1 second left.

    Sure, I'm the ignorant one. *Sarcasm*
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    Exactly the point I am trying to make. Thank you.

    Excellent post, couldn't have said it better.
     
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    It's very much like Rahman/Tua. Another instance in late 90s heavyweight boxing where the network's "slugging star" got very favorable officiating.
     
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  13. The Kentucky Cobra

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    Yeah, I don't agree with that phrase. Lewis struggled with Mercer immensely though, more or less was out boxed in many rounds. I don't recall what I scored it, I remember thinking it was a draw or narrow Mercer win. It's a weird fight to be sure. Mercer not a great boxer and actually out of shape in this fight but Lewis couldn't solve his jab.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

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    Yeah I agree, I had Mercer winning but not by a lot. Had the fight gone on another 2 rds I think Lewis would have got it on my scorecard imo.
     
  15. Man_Machine

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    LOL. Where did I claim Byrd didn't want to or couldn't survive the rest of the round? As soon as you start putting your own words into other people's posts, your on a loser, chap. This is why you're appearing ignorant. *NOT Sarcasm*

    You're the one, who doesn't care what the man himself said. You're the one, who is dismissing the "technical rules". You're the one, who claims I haven't watched the fight when you're also the one telling me that the bell went before the stoppage - which is clearly incorrect and a reach on your part. This, again, is why you're appearing ignorant. *NOT Sarcasm, Again*

    Funny, though, because I suspect Byrd was so out of it that he too thought the warning for the end of the round was the bell.

    Not that it matters to you, because you've already made your mind up, but did you hear what Roy Jones Jr had to say about Byrd's condition - not long after the Referee stopped it?