Ike Ibeabuchi vs the following

Mercer is weird in this period.

I recall having Mercer losing Ferguson rematch by a couple rounds and losing to Wilson. I think he lost a close one to Evander thanks to the KD, edging Lewis, and then losing to Spoon.

And he was oddly in his best shape during this period for the Ferguson rematch.

 

Here's a certainty: The ref stopped it in round-5 and was well within his rights to do so.

Byrd L TKO5

Get over it.

 

This board sometimes...

Okay, you clearly used Byrd's quote to erroneously suggest he agreed with the stoppage. You denied doing that, but then turn around and do it again in the next paragraph.

Speculation that doesn't really mean anything. Maybe Ike thought Byrd was one of those demons that ordered him to commit ****, I don't know.

Who cares. Roy Jones and Byrd were rivals of sorts for obvious reasons, and the entire HBO crew had a hard on for Ike and a dislike for Byrd at this point.

This is the Classic section, where we debate the past, including past controversies. If you don't like that, leave. You failed to argue my points and now just want me to shut up..well, I'm not going to do that.

 

Look. Stop acting the Mong. What is wrong with you?

You've point-blank made up things I'm supposed to have claimed. So, you are the one making up "strawman positions".

I don't know why. Perhaps you're just making up complete rubbish to justify your sh!t argument.

My position is clear. Byrd was out of it and the Ref was within his rights to stop the bout. It's that simple.

 

There are at least a few good reasons why my initial response to you was short, swift and to the point.

Firstly, I did not want to have an endless discussion with you - because that's how they tend to end up. I know from previous experience that you are happy to foster a circular stalemate, from pretty much the outset. I've also noted your tendency to throw out people's arguments on the basis of them committing some error in argumentation, whilst continually and in your own blindly ignorant way, making the same errors yourself.

Secondly, I have no interest in discussing a topic with someone, who doesn't care about what experts in the sport have to say in relation to the topic at hand; or, what the people, who were directly involved as the subjects of the topic, had to say.

Thirdly (and related to the previous two points), I have no interest in engaging in a discussion with anyone, who flippantly rules out "speculation" by those opposed to their position. This entire side-topic of the Ibeabuchi/Byrd stoppage, itself, rests on the speculative judgement of the Referee in that bout, as well as your own speculation as to whether or not Byrd would have been fit to continue in and/or survive in round 6. In short, the discussion is nothing but based on speculations.

However, since you're so keen on certainties and ready to dismiss any spoken or written evidence (as you have done), which would clearly cast doubt on your viewpoint, there is no real point in us continuing the conversation. Which is why I drew a line under it - in what was going to be my first and only post in response to you - by making clear the said 'certainties' of the matter.

Byrd L TKO5. The ref was quite within his rights to stop the fight when he did.

That's about as certain as we will get on the matter. And, please don't pretend, as though you are some sort of Classic Forum Don. You are not. Your words are of absolutely no interest to me, let alone any influence on my actions.

There is no need for you to respond to this post. I have no interest in shutting you up but, believe me when I tell you, I made the mistake of replying to one of your posts - plain ans simple. My bad - but, as far as I am concerned, this exchange is over.

 

What errors? Can you be specific, I don't think you can.

An arrogant rival boxer who claimed he would make easy work of Vitali Klitschko and Mike Tyson, and career announcers that are there to provide entertainment and are paid to sell the network. I don't give them guys as hard a time as others, but only a fool would quote them for an "expert opinion."

It depends. In this instance I used visceral observations to support my opinion that the stoppage was premature. You are arguing against my opinion with metaphysical speculations into Byrd's inner thoughts.

I don't care about spoken or written evidence when I have the footage in front of me. What written evidence are you even referring to?

Yes that is the official result and I'm still of the opinion it was a premature stoppage. Boxing is full of disputed official results.

If you say so.

 

"Sarcasm doesn't work with text." Remember? That's what you told me last night. It needs 'Tone of voice'.

My word Dago. In your haste to insult other posters, you don't half tie yourself in knots. Do us all a favour and get back to your debate with Saint Pat on different ways of throwing a punch. I feel like watching someone shoot fish in a barrel.

 

Agreed:

But I'd say:

no
HELL NO
and no.

 

You dished out an insult to the Classic Forum, as a whole, from the outset of you arguing that the Ibeabuchi/Byrd stoppage was premature.


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https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/ike-ibeabuchi-vs-the-following.588289/page-2#post-18605959

 

How about thread Prime Baer vs Prime Bowe post #39 when you called me a 'cuck mother****er'? Said my wife performed sex acts on my friends? I didn't even know you posted much less had ever insulted you. And my wife has never insulted you in her life.