Ike Ibeabuchi- would beat all of Joe Louis’s opposition.

Not having a go but Ike wouldn't rule long in any era because he couldn't control himself. Louis reigned over 11 years and drummed up 25 or so defenses. This was in the era of one single title unlike late Ali, Holmes, Tyson and everyone forward of that (tho he unified).

The real magic is in the consistency and longevity no matter how one perceives the quality.

 

Good post JT.

When you consider someone as dominant as Tyson (who was probably the most feared and hyped fighter in my memory) who people thought was invincible and would rule for years lasted only a bit over 3 years and even less when you count when he went lineal before he got beaten. Louis ruled for 11 years and 25 defenses! He was just getting warmed up in the time it took Tysons reign to come and go. Ditto a monster like Foreman whose initial reign lasted a bit over 18 months.

Louis was a freak. I don’t think many or anyone could last as long with as many defenses against as many opponents without at least an “off night” disrupting things along the way. A lot of boxing is mental as well as preparation and to stay on and up for so long is a feat in itself.

 

Walcot might have out-boxed Lewis, Wlad or Bowe, Wlad struggled to land much on Haye, Walcot and Charles were slicker than Byrd, Louis would have landed far more shots on Haye than Wlad did.

 

Ike couldn't even rule in his own era and wouldn't have had he not gone to prison. Lewis, Wlad, and Vitali would have beat him up. In my opinion Tua beat him narrowly. The fight was much closer than people who boast Ike seem to think. It wasn't a clear domination and it wasn't constant bombs being thrown. Most of those nearly 2000 punches were pitty pat punches. However it was still a good fight but I think the wrong man was given the nod.

Chris Byrd was beating Ike and making him look horrible prior to being caught. Ike scored one legitimate knockdown against Byrd then Byrd recovered relatively fast. The second knockdown was purely because Ike literally stepped on Byrd's foot, who lost balance evading Ike's punches. The finish was complete bull**** imo. Ibeabuchi missed most of his punches because of Byrd's good defense and the ref stopped the fight as the round was ending and Ike kept punching while Chris put his hands down because he thought the round was over. You can see that Chris was more than capable of defending himself, he thought the round was over is all. Against a fighter like Billy Conn, Ibeabuchi would have looked like **** all the way.

 

Ike could very well destroy a good few of Louis s oppenents, maybe faster than the man himself.
But, as others point out, he wouldn't reign long, at all. He never even got as far as challenging for a title, just can't see it myself.

 

In the 1930s, Ike Ibeabuchi never would've fought for the heavyweight title in the first place.

And, back then, had he even made it to the U.S. and become a boxer, he'd have been locked up in a mental asylum for his crimes and they would've lobotomized him within hours after he arrived because he was big and dangerous. They lobotomized people even if they weren't violent back then.

The only reason Ike is alive is he was living in this era not that one.

He couldn't hold it together long enough to win a belt in an era where there were four - he wasn't even going to get a sniff at a THE title in the 1930s when there was only one.

The Ike fantasies need to stop. Jeff Wooden nearly outboxed Tua. Golota outboxed Byrd. "King" Arthur Williams had Byrd on the deck and nearly outpointed him. Jameel McCline had Byrd on the floor and nearly outpointed him. In truth, you didn't have to be anything special to give those guys a hard time.

 

I think most of you are losing sight of the question. He thinks Ike would beat Louis’s opposition if he can remain in his physical prime, a question regarding Ike’s longevity isn’t one that needs to be asked considering how short his career was.

I actually tend to some degree with the post bar the obvious agenda against Joe Louis, Ike has that old school drowning stamina he would be the strongest most durable man of the time by a stretch as well . I think this paired with his fighting mindset and versatile ability warrants the validity of the question it’s not like he’s claiming John Ruiz could do it.

if we ignore the fact he would be bringing possible PED’s and his entire party through the time machine then I think he does it.

 

So you believe Ike would achieve less at HW then Billy Conn if given the chance?

 

Walcott boxes Ike silly
They weren't using PEDS back then either. That takes away a huge advantage Ike would have had

 

He wouldn't have been given a chance. That's the whole point. Ike never would've fought for the heavyweight title. After Jack Johnson, do you think the first black man to fight for the heavyweight title would've been freaking Ike Ibeabuchi? Now THAT is fantasy. (LOL)

 

Joe Louis defended the title over nearly a dozen years. Ike Ibeabuchi's pro career lasted a grand total of four and a half years. And this nonsense about maintaining his physical prime. Was Joe Louis in his physical prime 11 years after winning the title?

Ike Ibeabuchi was exciting for a brief time - like TWO years. He couldn't hold it together AT ALL. Fantasizing that he would be in his prime for 12 years and beat everyone Joe Louis beat in his whole life, frankly, is an insult to Joe Louis.

People in classic have started to do this lately. Same with the thread about George Foreman and who could equal winning the world title at nearly 46. People were throwing all these names out, like winning THE world heavyweight title at nearly 46 was so easy to do.

Same with Joe Louis. Joe Louis broke the color barrier after Jack Johnson, wiped out all the former champs, and held the title for nearly a dozen years and made 25 title defenses.

He didn't do that in a vacuum. He did that in a pretty crazy time for black athletes. Louis wasn't in his prime the whole time. He had off nights and great night. He aged over time like everyone does.

Could Ike do that? No. Ike wouldn't have even fought for the title, forget holding it a dozen years and making 25 title defenses. Ike couldn't keep his head on straight for five years. Ike couldn't get a title shot when there were four belts, because he was criminally crazy. The criminally crazy had it MUCH WORSE in the 1930s.

He certainly would not "rule" in Joe's place, like the original poster said.

So, no.

 

Bottom line. No.

 

Hell no....john henry lewis would probably school him

 

No, he wouldn't.