Ike Quartey vs Oscar De La Hoya Revisited

Just watched it Ike definitely won it, whats the final number on De La Hoya gifts:huh Sturm(many had Whitaker wining), Ike and his fans cry robbery vs Tito:tired
And this was fixed no doubt two ******ed refs have Oscar not needing to win last round at all atsch
Also his post fight interview it wasnt good fight there is better fights for me blah blah blah

 

DLH definitley won it for me. Easy fight to score. No Gifts here:deal

He was behind 5-6 going into the 12th but did what Champions are supposed to do and won that round big.

Dumbass should have done the same in at least the last round vs Trinidad!

 

Oscar is one of the most overrated boxers, no, one of the most overrated athletes in the history of sports. Oscar was exposed and showed up every time he fought top level competition - and still got many gifts in the process. Oscar is like Sven Ottke, getting gift decisions all the time. He is more overrated than Floyd and Manny combined, and that is quite a difficult accomplishment. Let's look at his "notable" career starting with Chavez because prior to that point he fought nobodies. He is not a top 55 pound for pound fighter, never could be, and that might be giving Oscar too much credit.

1) Chavez - Chavez es cómo Oscar - sobrevalorado, Chavez peleó contra bums por todo su carrera. Chavez best wins are Haugen, Camacho, and 2 wins over Meldrick Taylor with one being a huge stroke of luck due to help from Richard Steele. Chavez could have been 200-0 but it does nothing to change the fact that he beat up taxi drivers throughout his career and has a padded record. Like Oscar, Chavez is more name value and myth than substance. Also, Chavez was way past his best having already been whipped by Pernell and Norwood. By the time he fought Oscar he was even worse than he was in his prime.

2) Pernell Whitaker - Pernell crushed Oscar easy - despite having a point taken away - but the judges were blind. Oscar threw flurries at the end of the rounds to confuse the judges and make it seem like he was landing shots when Pernell was not touched at all. Pernell's jab landed more often than any of Oscar's flurries. Unfortunately for Pernell, because his defense was so good the judges overvalued the few times he did get hit - and those were very FEW times. Oscar got a gift decision and this is not a legit win. Considering that Pernell was near the end and Oscar in his prime that makes it worse. Just like when fat 38 year old past his prime Lennox dismantled the overrated bum Vitali in his prime.

3) Hector Camacho - Camacho es cómo Chavez, el peleó contra bums por todo su carrera. Camacho never had a notable win. Beating a washed up Duran and a Ray Leonard coming off a 6 year hiatus is not notable. Got whipped by Greg Haugen and the fact that Camacho won the rematch isn't impressive because Haugen wasn't good to begin with.

4) Ike Quartey - who did Quartey beat that made him such a great boxer? Not Vince Phillips - his best win.

5) Felix Trinidad - it's not only important for someone to win a fight. What matters is how you win. And how did Oscar win the fight? By literally running away for the last 3 rounds. Good thing that Oscar got a taste of his own medicine and got robbed by the judges. For once the judges make Oscar pay for the gifts he received in his career. If you think that an all time great fighter is someone who literally runs away for 3 rounds in a championship fight then you are delusional. Mucho respeto a Tito porque el nunca peleó en una manera con falta de respeto por boxeo - como la suciedad que se llama Oscar.

6) Shane Mosley - Shane put 2 whippings on De La Hoya. Just like with Whitaker, when Oscar fights the cream of the crop he falls short (with the one exception of Trinidad - in which he didn't fight like a true champion). Even if the second fight was close, Oscar didn't convincingly win it.

7) Arturo Gatti - Gatti has a great chin and that's about it. Outside of his exciting fights with Ward - a C level fighter - there is nothing notable about Gatti's career. Beating a C level fighter like Gatti doesn't make you elite.

8. Fernando Vargas - Fernando es basura cómo Oscar. Yo reía cuando él perdía. Fernando's biggest claim to fame is beating an inexperienced Winky Wright. Whoop de doo another C level fighter that Oscar beat. But it makes sense for Oscar to fight Vargas because Oscar has never beaten top level boxers without running away for 3 rounds.

9) Ramon Campas - never beat anyone. Another can for Oscar

10) Felix Sturm - wow Oscar got gifted a decision that he shouldn't have. What a surprise.

11) Bernard Hopkins - unlike Floyd Oscar and Manny, Bernard is an all time great fighter. And it showed when Bernard crushed Oscar's liver. Would have been even more enjoyable if the liver shot was as good as RJJ vs Virgil Hill. I don't care if Bernard is bigger. Did size stop Roberto Duran from moving up 2 classes and handing Ray Leonard his first loss? Skills pay the bills - not weight.

12) Ricardo Mayorga - Miguel Cotto lo dijo en la manera mejor. "Después de la pelea de la sorpresa de Vernon Forrest, Ricardo Mayorga murío." Mayorga had his 15 minutes of fame from beating Forrest. That's it. This would not be a notable win on an all time great fighter's resume, but because Oscar's record is so weak it stands out more than it should.

13) Floyd Mayweather - two overrated fighters going at it. Floyd clearly won the fight but - what a surprise - one judge was stupid enough to give Oscar the win. Thank God there were two competent judges or Oscar would be given a third gift decision.

14) Manny Pacquiao - two overrated fighters going at it once again. And Oscar got exposed as the more overrated one.

And there you have it. Oscar De La Basura. Despite winning 10 paper titles in 6 weight classes, Oscar has proven that that is simply due to the fact that he is the beneficiary of an era where there are four belts per class and paper champions galore. No wonder he won so many titles in so many classes - all the paper champions he won them from were bums. Oscar es un hombre y campeon falso. Nunca sería con los cincuento boxeadores mejores del tiempo, libra por libra. Oscar es un hombre falso y un campeon falso. Nunca sería uno de los cincuenta boxeadores mejores del tiempo, libra por libra y nunca podría ser. Es un pocho de basura y suciedad.

I know certain people who are sheep following the herd behind Oscar have prepared fallacious arguments to defend him, so I will dismantle those arguments right away

1) Oscar rightfully beat Pernell and got robbed vs Mosley and Trinidad - Regarding Pernell, if you believe Oscar won then you don't know how to judge. Regarding Shane - a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then and one win over Shane Mosley after previously losing to him doesnt up your stock much. Regarding Tito - Oscar ran away for 3 rounds. That's not something a true p4p great would do. Don't forget that Sturm also whipped Oscar

2) Oscar has 10 titles in 6 classes - so what? There are 4 titles per class so being a champion doesn't hold much value. Looking at the gift decisions he got and the weak opposition he legitimately beat, that's not impressive. It doesn't matter if he has 20 belts in 20 classes - if he fought bums and paper champs it holds little value. Your titles are only worth as much as your competition.

3) Well Oscar fought the best so even if he lost he is one of the best - No. Canelo Alvarez fought the best in Floyd Mayweather - does that make him one of the best? No. It's not impressive to fight the best if you keep losing - in the sense that Oscar is not a top level boxer. Getting consistently beaten by the top guys shows that you do not belong with the top guys.

What has been written is IRREFUTABLE UNDENIABLE INDISPUTABLE UNCONTESTABLE NONSUBJECTIVE UNQUESTIONABLE FLAWLESS FACT (not opinion or conjecture in the slightest). If anyone can disprove this magnanimous insight of my wisdom, I will respond and acknowledge my mistake. Unfortunately, no competent human being can deny the undeniable, and therefore there is no chance of disproving the facts stated above. By extension - the chances of receiving my response are negligible.

 

Oscar did too little in the mid rounds for me to give him 6 rounds. Ike should have won on the cards. It wasn't even hard to score.

Overrated fight. Exciting 6th round and finish, too much of a posefest otherwise.

 

10-9 Ike.

It can't be 9-8 without a point deduction for fouls. 10 point must system

10-8 DLH in the 12th

 

:deal Not to go to far but top 5 most overrated for sure.

 

Sure if you score one combination per round for DLH.:nut His corner man told him throw more combinations because one will not get you a round. He started strong and than just vanished for about 5 rounds, but after knockdown in last round i can see being close and maybe scoring it for Oscar, but 2 judges scored it so he doesnt need last round at all, disgusting.

 

I'm as big of an Oscar fan as there is....and I thought Quartey won that fight.

 

i know everything? no ydks!!! how many times are you going to copy and paste that oscar bashing garbage? you're just a hater, face it, and quit using google translate to try and write in spanish YDKSAS!!!

 

Don't act like Quartey was burning up the compustats.

 

I had Quartey winning.


Sorry but this was a robbery.

 

Quartey/DLH was a close fight.
Look up Herrera/Garcia for a recent example of what a robbery looks like!:deal

 

Close fight think I had it for Dlh

 

I always felt like Oscar De La Hoya vs Ike Quartey was a very close fight that could have gone to either fighter. Thinking back to when I did actually try to score the bout I had Ike Quartey winning but a situation where De La Hoya wins isn't inconceivable.

The problem with fighters like Quartey who use that "High Guard" type style is that typically the lose close fights just because the majority of them have low work rates. I can name a number of fights guys like Winky Wright, Ike Quartey, and Joshua Clottey lost because of that style. Its hard to give the guy who spent the majority of the round absorbing punches the benefit of a doubt in a close fight.

 

Quartey won the fight!:bbb