Ike Williams v Carlos Ortiz

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Two great lightweights, who wins over 15 rds?
     
  2. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a rough call. I don't think I've seen enough Williams to make a pick with confidence. My tentative answer is that Ortiz is versatile enough to outbox Ike and strong enough to not be manhandled.
     
  3. spinner

    spinner Active Member banned Full Member

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    Very tough call as these were two of the best.

    I'm going to give Ortiz the slight edge.


    By the time he was 30 Williams lost a number of fights while Ortiz was still winning against the likes of a Sugar Ramos, Ismael Laguna, and Johnny Bizarro. Ortiz only had 7 losses in his career and at least a couple of these were questionable decisions by the judges. His technical skills and conditioning were among the best in the history of the sport.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think i'll pick Ortiz.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You couldn't pick your nose.
     
  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I`ll go with Ike Williams. Probably not a KO but by decision.

    Ortiz is an overlooked lightweight.
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good match, i'll take williams
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Great match-up. I will take Ortiz. He was the more consistent performer at the higher level who didn't seem to have a book written on how to beat him. I think he could exploit the few holes in Williams' game, notably through sharp counters, educated footwork and when necessary activity. I will definitely think more on this.