ike williams vs livenstone bramble and ray mancini....

Manassa, have you read the Williams chapter in "In This Corner" by Peter Heller? Really, really interesting.

 

i agree. based on what documentation i had, i rated him as the second best lightweight ever for a time (like my opinion means ****)

athletically, he might be the 2nd best fighter i've ever seen

 

Can't remember :huh

I've bought/read/skimmed so many boxing books, most of which I don't know the names of. I tend to be drawn towards anything with a single mention of Williams or Hagler, so probably.

 

If you haven't, it's an amazing book, the best I've read about boxing. Each chapter begins with a little bio about the fighter the chapter is based on, and then the rest of it is just them speaking, without any editing or anything. If a fighter speaks with poor grammar, they print it that way. They copy their spoken sentence structure word for word. Really cool way to approach it, gives you a much better mental picture.

Williams comes across as an unusually erudite, well-spoken guy, and he lays it all out there. Everything about his career. Facinating read.

 

So it took me till now to pick up on Shommel's trollonicity. I blame it on my cold and my NyQuil-dulled senses.

 

He's probably an alias.

Been on here for years and always starts the same sort of vaguely ridiculous/idiotic threads while barely contributing to them, or posting more than a line or two.HEctor camacho vs Jake Lamotta etc...

 

It doesn't sound familiar, I'll have to give it a go.

Here's one for you: The Big Punchers by Reg Gutteridge. Written in '83 I think when Hagler was considered near invincible, so he gets a mention as does Robinson, Duran, Louis and so on. I think it's quite rare but it's my favourite.

 

Me not knowing that is akin to not knowing your step kid's name. Or something.

 

On the same night. By Knockout.

 

granite chin? Rosario. Bramble fell and had no desire to get back up and be hit again.In the 2nd round. Granite chin my ass.