Ike Williams vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Webbiano, Jun 29, 2020.


  1. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,863
    845
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Nov 6, 2011
    Let’s say 15 rounds at 140. Take a prime Williams vs Robinson before his first fight with LaMotta.
     
    Jel likes this.
  2. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,649
    2,976
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Feb 10, 2013
    Good fight. Very intriguing.
     
    TipNom likes this.
  3. William Walker

    William Walker Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,017
    1,558
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Apr 9, 2020
    I've often wondered about this myself, thinking it would be a great fight no matter the outcome. I tend to think Robinson would pull this one off too, but Williams was a tremendous puncher. Either way I think it goes to the judges' scorecards.
     
    LoadedGlove likes this.
  4. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,923
    3,907
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Oct 12, 2010
    Robinson wasnt as good at 135 as he would be at 147 but at that weight he had already beaten Sammy Angott, same guy who in turn beat Williams. I think Robinson, even at 135, would be able to beat Wiiams. He was just the bigger and more talented fighter than Ike Williams, especially with his fast feet. Ike himself wanted to challenge Robinson at 147 but his wife begged him not to fight him.
     
    Webbiano and LoadedGlove like this.
  5. William Walker

    William Walker Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,017
    1,558
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Apr 9, 2020
    i think the closer the weight is, the more dangerous it becomes for Ray
     
  6. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,631
    1,693
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Dec 6, 2019
    It's a bit of a stretch. The version of Ray you're talking about was a Middleweight. Ike might have enough nouse and power to give Sugar problems in his young 10 stone days but Robinson on his way up was beyond formidable.
    It would have been a fantastic fight though.
     
  7. JLP1978

    JLP1978 Member Full Member

    122
    190
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Apr 3, 2020
    Robinson was 5’11” with a 72” inch reach while Williams was 5’9”/ 68”.

    I have only seen Williams versus Beau Jack. Williams looked like a stand up boxer. I think giving up that much height and reach, and likely slower and definitely not a harder puncher...I don’t see how he can take Robinson on points unless Robinson has an off night.

    Some of the earlier fights I have seen or Robinson, he could become a hurricane if pressed. Does Williams have the style to deal with all of the that?
     
  8. William Walker

    William Walker Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,017
    1,558
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Apr 9, 2020
    I'm thinking more of the Robinson of '48 to '50, in which case SRR is a welterweight.
     
    LoadedGlove likes this.
  9. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,631
    1,693
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Dec 6, 2019
    I really don't reckon any Welter could have beaten that version of Robinson.
     
  10. William Walker

    William Walker Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,017
    1,558
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Apr 9, 2020
    probably not. Supposedly the welter version smokes the middleweight Robinson, which seems insane by watching middleweight Robinson.
     
    LoadedGlove likes this.


Sign up for ESPN+ and Stream Live Sports! Advertisement