I'm A Fan Of Usyk But He Legitimately Got KO'ed

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  1. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why are people worried about whether or not it was on the beltline? The rules don't don't say anything on the belt is okay. As far as I'm aware and with every vid showing refs discussing the rule with fighters a low blow is anything below the belly button. The only time a punch on the belt is legal is when the ref literally states, in the ring, that a punch on the belt is legal and that's done when fighters wear their trunks too high and the belt covers the bellybutton.
     
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  2. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's still difficult to tell, but you certainly offere a thoughtful rebuttal.

    Only Usyk, however, knows the extent to which he was hurt or how much (if at all) he may have sold/milked the shot for effect. Likewise, only Usyk knows how he might have responded had it been ruled a knockdown.

    What we do know, however, is Usyk finished the fight unambiguously.

    Cheers, man. Good to have a little back and forth without the usual bull****.
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think there's any doubt that he was legitimately hurt by that punch. Whether it was low or not is debatable, but he was definitely hurt.
     
  4. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No doubt.

    My point, however, is that only Usyk knows the extent to which he was hurt. Anything else is mere speculation.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    If the ref had ruled it a KD Usyk would've 100% got up and found a way to make it to the end of the round, even if it meant getting on his bike and running. He didn't get to where he is today and achieve all he has without being super tough and resilient. In addition to his his elite level skills, he's one of the most mentally strong fighters you'll ever see and one of the toughest too.

    I know these clowns are desperate to find and cling to any narrative they can to discredit him and are very threatened by him, but he's super tough both mentally and physically and Dubois who struggled to land clean with any regularity all night even though Team Usyk chose a small ring and Usyk stood right in front of him would not have been able to finish him in a million years.
     
  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    It covered his bellybutton
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No problem buddy I'm not into trash talking or name calling, aslong as you put forth a good argument in a polite respectful manner whether I disagree with it or not im fine with that.

    As for Usyk being able to get up ? Yeah as I said before it's all speculation no one truly knows, but from Usyk's reaction it looked like to me he had all the wind knocked out of him, and I don't believe 10 seconds would've been enough time for him to recover but that's just my opinion on it.

    Overall though what a great discussion this apparent uneventful fight has created ? Who would've thought we would've had all this controversy ?
     
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  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If the ref doesn't acknowledge it to both fighters in the ring then it literally doesn't matter where his bellybutton is.
     
  9. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It looked like a low blow to me but no matter because he is bum anyway. This is the bum era of heavyweight boxing. Fury can box but he is a scatter brain and is making a mockery of the division.
     
  10. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I'm actually cool with the call just saying it looked good
     
  11. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a low blow. Maybe not Hatton-Tszyu or Golota-Bowe (multiple times) low, but it was still low. I think because part of the glove is on the belt line and part of it is below the belt line (sort of a hybrid shot), people are saying it isn't low. But you are not allowed to hit anywhere below the belt line, so by definition it's low.

    Also, none of us are in a position to argue with the referee's call. He saw it as low and ruled it as such. Move on.
     
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  12. shadow111

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    Of course he would have. The Serge crystal ball knows all. :cool:
     
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  13. Serge

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    You don't need the gift to know that, You just have to KSAB and Usyk and I've forgotten more about both than you could ever know :D
     
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  14. Roughhouse

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    If it wasn't a low blow, and you'd assume both Usyk and Dubois had a pretty good idea themselves whether it was, then I would've expected to see two things immediately afterwards. Usyk would've frenetically guarded his body from future shots from Dubois at all costs and we all would have seen it. He didn't. Because he believed it was a low shot and wasn't expecting another. Second thing, Dubois would've targeted his whole attack immediately after on side shots to the ribs and pressured to get those opportunities and he stayed at distance. If you know it was a legit shot, you ignore what the ref called and go right back for the finisher.

    In any event, I wasn't impressed with Usyk. He looks worn and old. Dubois wasn't exactly a Derby Winner either going down from a jab.
     
  15. Ivan28

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    That's why that referre was chosen, he was the referee of the "fight" Klitschko - Povetkin, right? But at the end, even if we count it as a KO for Dubuis, Usyk was so much better, that rematch would put everything on it's place
     
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