I'm A Fan Of Usyk But He Legitimately Got KO'ed

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dynamicpuncher, Aug 26, 2023.


Legal Body Punch ?

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  2. No

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  1. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    I have not concluded that it was a KD. My conclusion is that it was an according-to-Hoyle low blow, but not an intentional, egregious one a-la Golata-Bowe and therefore I would have been ok with it had the ref started the count.

    You already know what I think happens after that and unless I misunderstood you (which is entirely possible) we're in agreement. So, imo, nobody was victimized here. Not that home cooking didn't potentially exist, but that what there was of it never manifested or had no impact on the fight.

    Sorry if I didn't make myself clear earlier. I like a lot of your posts.
     
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  2. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Liked the post not necessarily out of agreement, but because it's a tough question and goes to the expectations of the people that pay the freight and what kind of sport are we wanting to be fans of? What guidance should the paying public give to the sport? Not an easy question, imo.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    If your eyes are working, here are some things things you don't know:

    The definition of BELTLINE

    What constitutes a low blow.

    The definition of LEGIIMATE.



    IF You';re blind as a bat, then disregard the three items above and see your eye doctor.
     
  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Question: The rule is that, if the navel cannot be seen, then the belt line is legal, correct?
    And since Usyk's navel was very high above his belt line, the blow was clearly low, correct?
     
  5. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Not too complicated if ones pull their heads out of Usyk's...
     
  6. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Not that easy anymore .

    The propaganda show was pathetic , the undercard was pathetic , the purse was pathetic , usyk on the canvas for minutes was pathetic , his excuses and try of damage control was pathetic .

    Everybody knows he avoided and will avoid wilder because wilder has the potential to destroy his fragile body .

    The rest was done by his management and bla bla mandatory excuses and covering .

    When dubois can touch and hurt usyk you can be sure wilder can also .
     
  7. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That a Dubois was able to put Usyk down is a real blow to Usyk image anyways. As he is the fact that Usyk did fight Dubois in the first place.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just to make one final point as I'm not debating this anymore and I'm going to be as fair as possible.

    A small part of Dubois's glove was below the belt line which technically is a foul yes, but Usyk's belt line was slightly high and was covering his belly button when the punch landed. And a majority of the glove landed smack bang right on the belt line which for me is still a legal abdomen punch.

    The referee made a decision and that's final no complaints, but with a different referee in maybe different part of the world his discretion on what he thinks is a legal blow on the belt line might of been different. As some referees are more lenient to shots right on the belt line as I will show you here.

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  9. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Low blow.
     
  10. SergioJ91

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  11. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Idk man, I've seen the punch multiple times and looked at each frame before and after the punch landed. That was borderline, it could of hit the top of the cup which sent a vibration to his genitals which is technically low.
     
  12. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You weak-kneed, no b*lls, kiss ass.

    Just kidding, my man!

    Good take as usual.
     
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  13. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    :D I get too worked up about this **** sometimes. This is supposed to fun, right?
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was conducting an investigation into the topic. I'm fascinated by many topics that challenge people's world view - including Flat Earth and the Mandela Effect. Trying to label me a flat earther because I'm interested in the topic is like trying to label an investigator of a murder investigation a "murderer". The point of my flat earth related discussions are to get answers to the questions many people have about our world.
     
  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    This punch appears to have been examined from every perspective possible…every possible angle but one……

    Perhaps it is a question that everyone has been afraid to ask.

    That question IS - does it hurt more to be punched on an outie belly button than it does an innie? I can hear the shocked silence.

    For the record, I have an extremely aesthetic innie - no piercings, it’s pretty enough and, equally as important, I don’t like pain. I have an acutely sensitive navel.

    Is this a physical attribute worthy of a poll amongst members - are you an outie or an innie, how does it feel and how do you feel about it in general?

    In terms of aesthetics, physiology and surrounding psychology, it is an oft neglected body part.

    This isn’t an attempt to body shame. We’re all God’s children and beautiful in our own way.