I'm A Fan Of Usyk But He Legitimately Got KO'ed

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dynamicpuncher, Aug 26, 2023.


Legal Body Punch ?

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  2. No

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  1. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shadow, nice to see you again, but if there are two concepts you clearly do not understand, it's logic and evidence.

    If there's anyone in doubt of that...go look up Shadow's flat earth thread
     
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  2. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You've got an entire thread, hundreds of pages long, arguing with everyone. There's no backpedalling from this, buddy.
     
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  3. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on Shadow....the only part of Dubois's glove touching the lowest part of the belt during impact, was his thumb
     
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  4. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    It was not a a low blow. Dubois should be champ.
    Another regionally fixed fight. A belt shot isn't low.
     
  5. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I’m actually thinking of marketing prosthetic belly buttons specifically for boxers and participants in other combat sports where adjudication on possible low blows might come into play.

    The prosthesis shouldn’t be too outrageously placed, of course.

    Suffice to say, an allocated position between and only slightly below the lower end of the pecs might raise a few eyebrows - but hey, then again, we’re not all built exactly the same, are we? People should be duly prohibited from “body shaming”.

    Not to be a w***er, but my genius idea could well exceed the epic proportions and sales of the Foreman Grill. The possibilities are endless.
     
  6. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    I have not concluded that it was a KD. My conclusion is that it was an according-to-Hoyle low blow, but not an intentional, egregious one a-la Golata-Bowe and therefore I would have been ok with it had the ref started the count.

    You already know what I think happens after that and unless I misunderstood you (which is entirely possible) we're in agreement. So, imo, nobody was victimized here. Not that home cooking didn't potentially exist, but that what there was of it never manifested or had no impact on the fight.

    Sorry if I didn't make myself clear earlier. I like a lot of your posts.
     
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  7. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    Liked the post not necessarily out of agreement, but because it's a tough question and goes to the expectations of the people that pay the freight and what kind of sport are we wanting to be fans of? What guidance should the paying public give to the sport? Not an easy question, imo.
     
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  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    If your eyes are working, here are some things things you don't know:

    The definition of BELTLINE

    What constitutes a low blow.

    The definition of LEGIIMATE.



    IF You';re blind as a bat, then disregard the three items above and see your eye doctor.
     
  9. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Question: The rule is that, if the navel cannot be seen, then the belt line is legal, correct?
    And since Usyk's navel was very high above his belt line, the blow was clearly low, correct?
     
  10. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Not too complicated if ones pull their heads out of Usyk's...
     
  11. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Not that easy anymore .

    The propaganda show was pathetic , the undercard was pathetic , the purse was pathetic , usyk on the canvas for minutes was pathetic , his excuses and try of damage control was pathetic .

    Everybody knows he avoided and will avoid wilder because wilder has the potential to destroy his fragile body .

    The rest was done by his management and bla bla mandatory excuses and covering .

    When dubois can touch and hurt usyk you can be sure wilder can also .
     
  12. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That a Dubois was able to put Usyk down is a real blow to Usyk image anyways. As he is the fact that Usyk did fight Dubois in the first place.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just to make one final point as I'm not debating this anymore and I'm going to be as fair as possible.

    A small part of Dubois's glove was below the belt line which technically is a foul yes, but Usyk's belt line was slightly high and was covering his belly button when the punch landed. And a majority of the glove landed smack bang right on the belt line which for me is still a legal abdomen punch.

    The referee made a decision and that's final no complaints, but with a different referee in maybe different part of the world his discretion on what he thinks is a legal blow on the belt line might of been different. As some referees are more lenient to shots right on the belt line as I will show you here.

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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone can have their own opinion on it which is fine but that's how i see it and i'm not changing my mind, but yeah that's my final point/post on this thread everyone can make of that what they will and have their own thoughts on the matter.
     
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  15. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Low blow.