I'm a GGG fan but this is getting ridiculous!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jmashyaka, Oct 19, 2016.


  1. Bad News Brit

    Bad News Brit Active Member banned Full Member

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    But who are these top fighters he fought at 168, like you said he did.

    Hopkins resume after 35 fights, or 10 years as a pro, or at the age of 36 was far inferior to GGG's

    But you know. We can't give Golovkin credit because skin colour matters.
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That is a shame. I'm not sure the opportunities are ever going to present themselves the way that team Gennady seems to be hoping. I know Golovkin is struggling finding good competition, but at least he's been active in recent years. 2016 was a big disappointment for Gennady, in the big picture.
     
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  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    yup...continue to take 0 chances...make 0 concessions....and the powers that be that control boxing here in the states just might continue to freeze him out......but have no fear...he can always go back over to eddie hearn put his knee pads on for him
     
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  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Saunders is gunna go anyway near GGG, he has shown he can not even get himself in the ring to take soft touches what's the likelihood he takes on the toughest fight in the division?

    I keep saying this Canelo does not need GGG, he can afford to wait he's young GGG cannot.
     
  5. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That would be a travesty.
     
  6. The Shockmaster

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    he fought kelly pavlik at a cw too.....but pavlik was one of the best at 160...yer clinging to semantics with the calzaghe 168 statement....because reaching and desperations is all you have left in this arugment

    history doesnt care when hopkins moved up or even why....it just knows that he did......golovkin will never do what hopkins did.....but keep thinking that because golovkin is winning fights at mw it somehow puts him in the same convo as hopkins as far as ATG status, career or resume....i have some sobering news for you...it doesnt and it never will.....golovkin will never take a dangerous fight at 175 because hes a pansy...he wouldnt even take a fight at 168 against feather fisted ward.....hell continue to feast on bums and you will lap him up because of your skin color and country of residence.....SAD
     
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  7. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is why it is so frustrating the fight has not gone to a purse bid yet. I get Loeffler does not want to risk another network picking up the fight but if this fight cannot be negotiated in 120 days get that purse bid and Jacobs can have his 25% or vacate and take 25% of nothing.
     
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  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah you same objective on the matter, any fan boy is annoying tbh they turn you off fighters. My arguement is Canelo and Jacobs both do not want to fight that much is clear but they can be lured in to the ring if team GGG make some concessions it would seem. Is it fair that this is case no! But Canelo has made some concessions in negotiations before. If GGG retires tomorrow he will not be remembered as a great which he could be because he never got in the ring with the big names.
     
  9. Bad News Brit

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    How do you know Golovkin will never move up. If he moves up like Hopkins did, he still has 18 fights left at Middleweight, or 7 years to move up at the same age, or 8 years after the debut.

    Pavlik wasn't at Super Middleweight either. Hopkins dragged him up 2 weight classes, he also pulled this stunt with Winky Wright. But lets not give Hopkins the hate, we gave GGG for fighting Brook, because skin colours matter don't they **** Master?
     
  10. Loudon

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    No, he's not going to take 25% and I don't see why he should.

    Personally, I think the fight will do huge numbers. More than Canelo-Cotto.

    It's okay noting what Canelo took for Cotto, but Cotto was the champ. Canelo was only young. He had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Here, it's GG who's the champ. Apart from financial gain, he has everything to lose and nothing to gain. So whilst I respect that Canelo made concessions to fight Cotto, GG isn't going to make those same concessions. And again, I don't think he should. Yes, Canelo's a huge name who does better numbers. But GBP has messed GG around before handing the belt over, and they also need GG as some of his fans are becoming restless. I don't think being the bigger drawer warrants 75% of the purse, not when GG is an established MW champ, and again, it'll be his belts they'll be fighting for. Also, it's not like Canelo is doing huge numbers when he's not in with another huge name. So you can't say he deserves a huge split just because he let Cotto have it. Again, the circumstances are are completely different.
     
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  11. kriszhao

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    Precisely.
     
  12. Rumsfeld

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    What does being the bigger draw warrant? 70%? 65%? Something lower?
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good points.

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if Jacobs vacated.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You sound like Bailey.

    Ha!
     
  15. The Shockmaster

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    i mentioned pavlik being a mw in my last post you idiot...i said he fought the best from 160-175 even after his mw reign was over...lol......and he at least gave pavlik a catchweight when having him come up.....

    golovkin wouldnt even fight feather fisted ward at 168....hes not going anywhere.....the minute he suffers a defeat his aura and mystique...along with interest in him ...is long gone

    let us know when golovkin fights an A level fighter in a class above the one he spent the majority of his career in......i wont wait....because your wife will sprout wings and fly before that happens....were still waiting on golovkin to make a good fight period
    keep talking about skin color and removing all doubt about what a clown you are