I'm a Hatton fan But Pac will win

Doesn't mean a thing, he outweighed Callazo and was matched for strength. Pacquiao started as a light fly while Hatton has been a Welter/Light Welter for his whole career.

 

well, as long as we are talking about size/weight here. diaz was a light welter/lightweight for his entire career and that apparently didn't help him against the formerly light-fly pacquiao. remember, i'm talking about size/weight here.

 

Hatton won't be able to lean on Pac for 12. Manny won't be there to lean on. This is one of those fights where I've changed my mind completely. I originally thought Hatton was too big for Manny but the more I think about it, Manny's a HELL of a lot faster-similar in height/reach and at this stage in the game I don't think Hatton can hang and bang with him.

With that said...Manny better steer clear of PBF. If JMM gives Pac fits (and he does), then PBF will plain embarass him. God I'd love to be wrong about that one though. IF Pac beats Hatton and Mayweather he retires an ATG, no question top 10 P4P all time.

 

No just replying to your statement that speed won't matter.

 

It wont be. Some of these fools cant even decide who the speed advantage will be with. This fight will be decided with Hattion bulling the smaller man around the ring.

 

I started a thread similar to this ... I think that Hatton just walks into a crazy Pac assult. His reflexes are shot and he just walks right in ... his speed has somewhat deminished and the KO loss to PBF has always been in the back of his mind since that night.

He almost got knocked by Lazcano ... a journeyman ...

Pac would definitely hurt him ... possibly worse than PBF did.

 

You do realise Hatton has only fought once since PBF dont you? Stop talking utter nonsense. Theres nothing to suggest Hattons reflexes are "shot". They may have diminished slightly but are not shot. As for the PBF KO loss being in "the back of his mind since that night" what are you basing this on?

 

the biggest problems for hatton is pacs lungeing forward which usually ends with a head butt which will end in a cut.

 

He'd have more problems than that.

Pacs speed and movement, plus he's a southpaw (which hatton is a sucker for - look how the mediocre Collazo busted him up). Look how active and fast pac was throughout the fight last night, it was amazing. Hatton on the other hand has gassed regularly in recent fights.

Mainly I just think the career trajectory of these two points to a Pac win. The only thing you can really argue in favor of Hatton is his size, although hatton fans will tell you hes a tiny welter so cant compete there, yet hes a giant Junior Welter.:huh

 

You cant possibly compare Collazo & Pac. That is such a weak thing to base an argument around. Hatton will be all over Pacman from the get go & wouldn't give him a moments breathing space. I think you'll be shocked at the size difference if they do actually get in the ring together. Speed will not be a factor, Hatton would nullify it by fighting at close range. Pac prefers to fight at mid range & will struggle to get his shots off.

 

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thats hatton at the lazcano weigh in

this is pac at the diaz weigh in

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hatton comes across as a bigger fighter - but when you look at photo's of hatton in the ring at LWW, he always seems to dwarf his opponents, he is an animal at 140, an utter monster.

 

first of all, manny would avoid the leaning of hatton. hatton is on a decline...... pac is on the rise but i still believe hatton will be heavy favorite coz 140 is the comfort zone of hatton... while pac started at
106lbs..... with yesterday's perfomance I'll give pac 50/50 chance over hatton!

 

good point! a cut could change the complexion of the game:good

 

Huh? Its possible to make a reference without it being central to an argument. Ergo, I DO realise Luis Collazo and manny are...different . It is, however, worth pointing out that Hatton has looked very very bad against southpaws (like Collazo, see?) and that Pac himself is, you guessed it, a southpaw!

Now that we are talking about the Collazo fight though, a salient feature of that was how easily (and cleanly) Collazo tagged Hatton with the counter right hook throughout - something Pac has really developed under Roach.

So, speed, stamina, boxing ability, the (marked) southpaw advantage, competition levels and career trajectory all being in favor of Pac, how big IS Hattons size advantage, really? Hattons fans say he is a tiny welterweight, and both the tale of the tape and Hatton and Pacs in ring, rehydrating weights point to a natural size differntial which is not exceptionally drastic.

I DO envision a possible scenario whereby Pac may have just passed his limit in terms of weight hopping (as his power is undoubedly decreased at 135, and would figure to be more so at 140) and could conceivably be worn down by a naturally larger Hatton, however for this to happen hatton would need the sort of form (and perhaps a sympathetic referee) that saw him beat Tsyzu; if he bulls in defenseless and reckless as he has recently I expect Pac to hit him very often and hard, causing sufficient damage to hattons delicate complexion to warrant a late round tko.