I'm a JMM fan but he didn't beat Pac

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  1. Certeza

    Certeza New Member Full Member

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    Even with points and knockdowns aside, the judges had it right. I was rooting for JMM and he fought the perfect fight. He followed Nacho's game plan and adjusted throughout the fight with his complete skill-set and experience, but he couldn't have done anything more to win that fight. Pac didn't fight a perfect fight and was sloppy at times, and basically threw Roach's game out the window a lot of the time, but he still managed a very close win.

    Pac was getting getting countered all night, but he was still fooking stalking JMM and hurting him more than he was getting hurt. JMM was far more hurt in this fight.

    People make a big deal of the the shot that made Pac step back, but one step back is not going to lose a fight when you've been in front of your opponent for the rest of the twelve rounds.

    A lot of of people, like myself, thought JMM won intially, but that's because most people expected Pac to dominate. He didn't dominate, and it was close, so it seemed like JMM got the short end of the stick.

    Pac won this. I also really didn't like how JMM was bitching (and still is) after the fight. He lost a bit of respect from me, especially when I read that he went to Pac's country and ambushed Pac in front of his people on TV and saying he lost that fight.

    Oh, and as far as JMM being p4p #1 or #2, even if you take away both the pac fights, he hasn't done much. Wins over Rocky Juarez, and way past it Barrera and even more so Casamayor wouldn't have gotten anyone else there. Re-watch his fights with Chris John and Jaca and JMM looks pretty average. As much as I like watching JMM and his skills, I think Joe C and Vazquez have accomplished a little more.
     
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    ******* ALERT!!! ******* ALERT!!!

    Nice first post noob!
     
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    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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  4. Certeza

    Certeza New Member Full Member

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    Thank you.

    I'm not a Pac fan by the way. I don't really get excited when he has fights coming up, but I respect him as a fighter and he's definitely a beast in the ring. I like Cotto, JMM, Vazquez, and even Ponce De Leon despite him sucking at times.
     
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  5. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    I thought JMM won but both fights were very close.
     
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  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone can make mistakes once or "Twice" in a while. Don't beat yourself up over it.
     
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  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Oh oohhhh . . . wait for a poster named Divac :yep

    :lol: :D :lol: :D
     
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  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Welcome to ESB. You will learn very fast.

    Just to clarify my reply, I think your post was garbage.

    No one in there right mind expected Manny Pacquiao to dominate but blind *******s.

    Secondly, you talk trash about JMM looking average against Jaca, are you insane???

    You also say that he looked avearge against Chris John, atleast he had the balls to fight him, and in his turf, and got robbed.

    Manny Pacquiao lost to an old and Shot Morales...What's your point? Even Clazaghe looked less than stellar when he fought Hopkins. You really sound like a hater.

    You put JMM under Vasquez. Nuff said about you.

    You are aware many Philipino analyst had JMM winning the second fight, as well as most boxing fans.

    It was a close fight, but JMM won.
     
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  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HA!!! PAC won Uli :smoke Don't get it twisted.....but I like JMM, he just can't beat PAC.
     
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  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    16 rds to 8 rds. JMM is better hands down.
     
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  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes

    Since when did that happen ????

    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
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  12. Certeza

    Certeza New Member Full Member

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    Fair enough about JMM winning, but who's Jaca? It was supposed to be a tune-up for an ATG fighter who was hungry to get back to the top. Vasquez may not be above JMM, but he's not far behind either. He DESTROYED Larios, Gonzales, and a prime Marquez, the best fighters in his division at the time. Oh, if I remember correctly, most boxing experts though Pac would knock JMM out.
     
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  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    The second fight was closer. The second fight was close on points, but at best Pac won three rounds.

    Throughout there 24 rounds I have it 16 rds to 8 rds in favor of JMM.
     
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  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Experts???
    They obviously weren't experts if they predicted that, because for one, that obviously didn't happen, nor come close to happening, and second, I and many here must be better experts because I predicted a better outcome time and time again than the so-called experts.

    Experts suck ass. Who are the dumbass experts you speak of anyway.

    If I recall correctly, most real fans predicted JMM to not get caught in the first round and do a repeat of the first fight.
     
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  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're math is all jacked up but now I understand why you are confused.:rofl Nah...in all honesty I can't be mad at fans who sided with JMM....the man is a hell of a fighter and great champion......I just think people score and judge fights based on their preference on what is more effective and what is not....I felt PAC was more effective overall in the 24 rounds that they faught.:good
     
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