I'm bored: Predictions on these fights please

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  1. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just go with SD for fights that I think would be really close. Basically the kind of fight where you get the general forum crying robbery afterwards eventhough it was just a close fight.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Hopkins didn't put pressure on him. You've mixed that up entirely. Hopkins circled the ring and made Pavlik come to him, he took Pavlik's jab out of the equation. Pavlik's feet were slower, so before he got into range to punch Hopkins, Hopkins dived in with lead rights and upset his rhythm. He didn't know whether to go forward or back because he was wary once that happened.

    Paul Williams doesn't do that. Paul Williams does put on pressure, but then again so did Miranda, Zuniga and Zertuche and they got murdered. Trading with Pavlik is generally not a good idea because he can throw just as many punches, and they are usually a lot harder, and he's usually a lot tougher.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I take it most people see Dawson doing the same thing to Hopkins that Taylor and JC did? Too much workrate.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Giovani Segura v Ivan Calderon (@ Light-Flyweight)

    Aint seen much of Segura but id picked Calderon to out box him to win on points. Just far too slick IMO.

    Hazumi Hasegawa v Fernando Montiel (@ Bantamweight)

    Hasegawa UD. Montiel aint as good no more and Hasegawa has improved ALOT.

    Juan Manuel Lopez v Celestino Caballero (@ Super Bantamweight)

    Lopez late KO. Wears down Cabby for a late stoppage in a slugfest with Cabby ahead on points by using his awkwardness to full effect but Lopez catches up and KOs him.

    This fight could be too early for Lopez so i could see a Cabby points win

    Chris John v Steve Luevano (@ Featherweight)

    Luevano SD. A bore of a fight both fighters moving alot and working behind the jab. I just think Leuevano is a bit slicker and quicker and can win this controversially.

    Jorge Linares v Roberto Guerrero (@ Super Featherweight)

    Aint seen Linares enough really.

    Edwin Valero v Humberto Soto (@ Lightweight - which might not be fantasy for too long)

    Valero goes for it and trys taking out Soto early and batters him up bad dropping him early. Soto tries to fight back but the size and speed is to much for him and he gest stopped in the mid rounds on his feet.

    I love Soto though.

    Timothy Bradley v Ricky Hatton (@ Light Welterweight)

    Bradleys too fast and flurries in and out of Hatton taking a wide UD.

    Amir Khan v Marcos Maidana (@ Light Welterweight)

    Maidana manages to get Amir to trade with him and drops Amir early. Khan starts to outbox him and starts getting confident and gets drawn to trade again and is dropped for the count late on, way ahead on the cards though.

    Kelly Pavlik v Paul Williams (@ Middleweight - again, this might happen soon)

    Willaims tries t force the fight using his workrate and plays into Kellys hands as kelly uses his size and bullies him around. Willims is more skilled but too similar to pavlk to suceed IMO. Id be cheering for PW but a UD for pavlik is my pick.

    Bernard Hopkins v Chad Dawson (@ Light Heavyweight)

    Hopkins proves to be abit too cagey for Dawson and capitalises on them lapses in concentration and manages to pull out a close UD. However this fight makes Dawson and he really improves afterwards.

    Nikolay Valuev v David Haye (@ Heavyweight :wink:)

    Haye comes out bombing and takes Valuev. Valuev is shocked but fights back but Hayes an irresistable force and forces him back. Valuev survives for afew rounds and Haye starts to tire so takes afew rounds off and comes on strong again and stops VCaluev late on bis feet.
     
  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Yep. More like Taylor in the way the fight pans out, but more convincing. I don't see him getting as careless as Calzaghe did, he's taller and has longer arms, so he can use that combined with his handspeed to out-work Hopkins without putting himself in too much trouble. Hopkins wouldn't be able to do his usual routine I don't think, but I'm sure he'd find a way to make it tough.
     
  6. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good Plus the handspeed. Though Dawson better not have those attention lapses he sometimes seems to have.
     
  7. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does anyone else think Calderon is slipping and if not Segura then someone like Viloria could beat him?
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Dawson has a good workrate but what would he do when a guy like Hopkins can shut him down and back away from him. I can see Dawson having a similar low workrate to Hopkins. And those concentration lapses would become more frequnt as Hopkins backs off etc...
     
  9. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Giovani Segura v Ivan Calderon (@ Light-Flyweight)

    Hazumi Hasegawa v Fernando Montiel (@ Bantamweight)

    Juan Manuel Lopez v Celestino Caballero (@ Super Bantamweight)

    Chris John v Steve Luevano (@ Featherweight)

    Jorge Linares v Roberto Guerrero (@ Super Featherweight)

    Edwin Valero v Humberto Soto (@ Lightweight - which might not be fantasy for too long)

    Timothy Bradley v Ricky Hatton (@ Light Welterweight)

    Amir Khan v Marcos Maidana (@ Light Welterweight)

    Kelly Pavlik v Paul Williams (@ Middleweight - again, this might happen soon)

    Bernard Hopkins v Chad Dawson (@ Light Heavyweight)

    Nikolay Valuev v David Haye (@ Heavyweight ;))

    The ones i've left as they are...are the ones i'm uncertain of and wouldn't like to make a call till i get a gut feeling.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    hes definitly slipping but hes still a top class boxer, i did think his last fight was a stylistic nightmare for him and i still thought he won by a point
     
  11. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Yeah i think someone will outwork him soon he looked terrible in his last few fights headbuts a side.
     
  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Noticeably slipping, has been for the last few years. I swear a lot of people don't actually watch him and big him up because its fashionable, because he seems to get on p4p lists despite looking poor.

    I kinda picked Segura thinking its got to happen soon.
     
  13. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Viloria:good.
     
  14. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll give my own:


    Giovani Segura TKO v Ivan Calderon - I think Calderon is there for the taking, and I think Segura is a nightmare opponent for him at this stage of his career.

    Hazumi Hasegawa v Fernando Montiel UD - Taking into account that both boxers bring their A-games, then I have to go with Fernando. I have immense respect for Hasegawa, but I feel that on his night Montiel is one of the best boxers on the planet.

    Juan Manuel Lopez UD v Celestino Caballero - No KO for Lopez in this one I feel, but he does Caballero on workrate in a very close fight.

    Chris John UD v Steve Luevano - Nip N' tuck battle. Very technical and tactical. A couple of swings in fortune, but John takes it.

    Jorge Linares KO v Roberto Guerrero - I think Linares has Guerrero's number in this one. A dominant opening stanza, with a muderous mid-rounds finish.

    Edwin Valero TKO v Humberto Soto - Valero absorbs a lot of early punishment to take out Soto late in a war........and fight of the year contender.

    Timothy Bradley UD v Ricky Hatton - Bradley has too much for Ricky at this stage. Hatton down twice en route to a conclusive stoppage loss.

    Amir Khan v Marcos Maidana KO - Maidana trails early but keeps pressuring, and is rewarded with a late KO victory

    Kelly Pavlik v Paul Williams UD - Workrate and mobility befuddle Pavlik for a surprisingly wide decision in favour of Williams.

    Bernard Hopkins v Chad Dawson UD - Bernard doesn't like a guy who has a big speed advantage on him. B-Hop has his moments, but Dawson outspeeds him and outworks him for a close points decision.

    Nikolay Valuev v David Haye KO - Haye is the first to stop the Beast. What look like reckless bombs from the outside work a treat against the lumbering Russian as Haye first wears him down and then takes him out. The corner will throw in the towel around round 10.
     
  15. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    I'm not to big a Sergura fan i don't think he's all that great but he entertains and i think Calderon is on the slide. I think Canchilla throughly out boxed Sergura in the first fight...but Calderon isn't looking great and is prone to cuts and doesn't seem to have that hunger to fight in a war. I think Sergura could take him there and test his will.