I'm Confused: Floyd vs JMM sells More Than Floyd vs Hatton Does?

I don't deny that Mayweather has a nice little fan base, but his fan base will NEVER buy him even 500K alone like Oscar's who bought like 950K to watch him in a tune up vs Campas, that is a true PPV star.

Mayweather will ALWAYS need a fighter with a huge Fan base to help him do huge numbers.

Marquez might not have a huge fan base, but Mexicans support their fighters, and considerin that JMM is the last great Mexican fighting, of course Mexicans tuned in, so yes Marquez was the reason it go 1 mil.

Mayweather vs a fighter whose fan base is small will never even crack 750K.

 

Of course it wouldn't! Neither of those guys are strong PPV pullers.

Not even DLH would crack 600 with Clottey or Berto.

**** even DLH's first fight with Mosley only did 590k.

So stop acting like it would only be Mayweather that would sink if he fought someone like that.

 

Floyd did have something to do with him getting tired, but also lets not forget DLH has a HISTORY of fading in the last half of the fight please refer to Trinidad vs Delahoya, Sturm vs Delahoya Mosley vs Delahoya.

Didnt say he cant fight Cotto, dont know where you got that from, Mosley though he is older he is still dangerous and just came off a huge win over a man that Floyd refused to fight.

 

Mayweather-Marquez gets 1 million PPV sales
By GREG BEACHAM (AP) – 1 hour ago

Floyd Mayweather Jr. was once boxing's pound-for-pound champion, and now he's evolving into its pay-per-view king as well.

Mayweather's victory over Juan Manuel Marquez last weekend generated an impressive 1 million pay-per-view buys, HBO Sports announced Friday. The robust result confirms Mayweather's once-debatable superstar status in a sport that thrives on big names in big events.

The bout at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas on Sept. 19 generated a remarkable $52 million in pay-per-view revenue at its $49.95 suggested price, making it the highest-performing event this year. It's just the fifth non-heavyweight event to generate 1 million buys on a list headed by Mayweather's split-decision victory over Oscar De La Hoya in 2007, which had a record 2.44 million.

Most credited that performance to De La Hoya, the sport's top pay-per-view draw before his retirement this year. After leaving boxing for 21 months at the top of his skills, Mayweather appears ready to fill the void left by De La Hoya with a love-me-or-hate-me persona that interests even casual sports fans.

Still, 1 million buys even surprised HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg.
"I'm going to say it's unexpected, but there was always a side of me that knew it was crossing over," Greenburg told The Associated Press. "You have to give some credit to Juan Manuel Marquez's Hispanic fan base, but beyond that, Floyd Mayweather has established himself as a star in the sport. All his work with 'Dancing With the Stars' and the WWE and (HBO reality show) '24/7' has established an image that Floyd projects and that people are interested in."

HBO and Golden Boy Promotions attempted to reach new markets for boxing with a pastiche of Internet events, marketing tie-ins and public appearances. HBO also saw a ratings spike for the four-part "24/7" series leading up to the fight, suggesting Mayweather's persona and fighting skills were the main draw for that surprising number of fans.

"There's no question he's got a little bit of that Muhammad Ali in him from the '60s," Greenburg said. "There were a lot of people that wanted to see his mouth shut as well, and you can't take your eyes off him."

Mayweather's previous fight against Ricky Hatton in December 2007 generated 920,000 buys before Mayweather took a break during which he danced on network television, pretended to wrestle on cable, and took endorsement deals that raised his profile — although nobody knew just how much until now.

Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer anticipated impressive numbers for Mayweather-Marquez on Thursday, saying the fight went "through the roof."
"It's big, very big," Schaefer said. "A lot of people didn't believe us. Maybe I've gained a little credibility with my predictions. Most importantly, I hope the world realizes when we release these numbers that Floyd Mayweather, love him or hate him, is today — without any question, no ifs, ands or buts — the No. 1 pay-per-view star in the world."

The pay-per-view sales apparently weren't even harmed by Golden Boy's decision to show the fight in 170 movie theaters around the country, a strategy that worried Greenburg. Schaefer said the fight played to about 80 percent capacity in theaters, which were once a regular site for closed-circuit boxing shows.

Mayweather-Marquez also scored what's likely to be a clear victory over the pay-per-view telecast of UFC 103, which is thought to have generated only a fraction of HBO's 1 million sales. UFC 103 was a fairly minor card on the league's calendar, yet the two so-called "combat sports" rarely go head-to-head on pay-per-view.

 

ODLH who has a true huge fanbase fought Campas and generated nealy 1 million buys.

If Mayweather is the draw you say he is, he can surely fight anyone like Oscar did, and have a huge draw. BUT HE CAN"T.

PBF needs another fighter with a big fan base to make big numbers.

 

Zelenoff is going army.


I live at home, there's no where to go. I pay rent, pay for what I need and want on the money I get.

Im home by myself 80% of the time anyway, father works in a company where he travels, the same company wants to hire me.

My Mother is helping my sister and her husband with their baby 2 and half hours away most of the time.

Plus there's a WareHouse we rent on our property 3500SqFt.

I gotta take care of this place so they pass it off to me, cause that's bank when this house is paid for. Rent it out and rent the warehouse, mad income.

Plus, once I get into the navy, housing allowance = win.

 

So your implying that I am implying.... ohh thats just ****ing dandy isnt it...:roll:

 

What was Oscar ppv numbers against Mayorga and Sturm?

 

Zelenoff is not going to the army last I heard it was the Navy you know he aint going, when do you finish school? and really why the navy dude, do you not know we are at war? Seriously as Much as I hate Floyd fans I would rather not hear of anybody ending up in the mid east over some dumb **** that rich people started up.

You should just stick with school dude, your already in school may as well atleast you will be in the A/C

 

What were they:huh

 

So was Marquez the reason Pac V Marquez did 400k?

 

I heard it was Army. I don't follow him or the post much at all.

Father was in the navy for 12 years. The best benefits you can ask for, travel the world even during war time you stop at ports like mad.

The good and bad part is, I now have to go reserve because they are only accepting High School students because so many people are joining. So I'll go reserve, get a 20k bonus, be paid like active throughout boot camp and A school, then get the 20k after A-School and start my reserve ****.

After 90 days I can apply for active but I have to hope they accept me.

I have a ways to go before I get the degree I want, I had a lot of speed bumps a long the way to this choice.

I would be sticking with school, I get credits in boot camp and A-School, on top of the GI Bill.

 

J.C Chavez II( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
Ike Quartey( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
Felix Trinidad(9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
Shane Mosley(6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
Javier Castillejo(6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
Fernando Vargas(9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
Yory Boy Campas(5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
Shane Mosley II( 9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
Felix Sturm(6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
Bernard Hopkins(9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
Ricardo Mayorga (05/06) 875,000 buys (note, my other source says 925,000)

 

WOW no he did not.

DLH-Campas did 350k :rofl:rofl

Oscar failed to break above 400k every time he did not have a strong B opponent.

 

You know my wife got her PhD in just over five years and picked up her masters along the way, they actually paid for her to go to school, and get this when she finished USC and Cal state both hired her, she has also written grants for other colleges and the good part is, She conducted research for her School USC and she didnt have to pay back her student loans.:good