I'm convinced Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is cheating

Mexicans tarnish the image of Puerto rican boxers in the ring. Puerto ricans tarnish the image of Mexicans on the internet.

 

Someone who steals 25 cents or someone who steals a $100 is considered a thief regardless of the amount. Just like cheating is cheating no matter how offensive the "cheat" factors in the outcome of a fight.

 

SUPER DRUGS!?!? :rofl

From what I've heard, it was only JCC Jr... wouldn't u be so kind as to post a link to prove ur statement??

No.. It could be used as a masking agent ( cover up other substances) and is also the most likely scenario, as stated above by another poster.... Then again, why not testing???? Another phobic to needles under Ariza and Roach?? Go figure!! Stop making clowns of yourselves, u know what's going on!! :smooch

 

He got off because the arbitrator ruled that the proper chain of custody wasn't used. That doesn't mean that he's innocent. To give you a parallel, imagine if a cop pulled someone over, and had a hunch that something was wrong. He goes on his hunch, opens up the trunk, and finds a dead body. He arrests the driver, and they find a gun in the car. Ballistics show the driver recently fired the gun, the bullets macth the ones in the victim, and the suspect has the victims DNA on him. During the trial, the suspects attorney successfully argues that the arresting officer illegally searched the vehicle, and all the evidence found in the car is dismissed. With no evidence, the suspect is found not guilty and let go. Now in that situation could you really say that the suspect was innocent or that the ballistics or DNA tests were faulty just because the car was illegally searched? Of course not. By the same token, the MLB's actual drug tests aren't faulty just because the samples weren't Fed-Ex'd right away.

 

i could give a **** if he is or isnt on drugs....in 2012 if boxers have become super geniuses that can out wit and out smart all tests, commissions and sanctioning bodies then they deserve to get away with it. dont blame the fighter, blame the system that would allow people to actually beat the system

 

You're not gonna change your opinion so stop trying to change mine with your whacked examples. Improper chain of custody means what? It means the sample could have been tampered with by the people who administered the test. You ask how the seal could be broken? You fail to ask who put the seal on it in the first place. Drug testing is all about protocols to ensure improprieties do not taint the sample, thereby jeopardizing the integrity of the whole process.

You can't even get into an argument that the test is valid or not if you can't prove the sample wasn't tainted to begin with.

Anyways, I know you don't care so no need to try and change my opinion. It's not like drug testing agencies haven't ever screwed up before and this is the first time... lol.

 

WELLLLl, ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER HUGE VICTORY FOR PR SINCE THE INTERNET HAS SUCH AN OVERWHELMING, MAGNANIMOUS, OVERALL PRESENCE COMPARED TO BOXING IN THE VAST REALM OF THINGS. THX FOR THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT!!

Btw, that's how u tarnish an image, wearing loaded wraps, if u know what I mean!!!.... Ohh, and refusing to submit ped tests, specially after being suspended.... Que vivan los frijoles y que viva la mejico.... QUE VIVA!!! :hi:

 

While it's true that neither man (Chavez and Rubio) was tested after the bout, the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation has taken full responsibility for the error.

"The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation did not book the drug testing laboratory for the Top Rank event on February 4, 2012," The Texas Commission wrote in a statement. "Specimens were taken from [Troy] Lowry and [Vanes] Martirosyan, but in the absence of the independent testing laboratory the integrity of the samples could not be assured and they were destroyed. No further samples were taken. The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation regrets this oversight and is addressing the procedure going forward."


[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ycn-10937948[/url]

 

Check out these excerpts from an article I found;

While Braun left open the possibility that the delay could have led to his sample being altered, Major League Baseball Executive Vice President Rob Manfred said "neither Mr. Braun nor the MLBPA contended in the grievance that his sample had been tampered with or produced any evidence of tampering."

David Howman, director general of the World Anti-Doping Agency, called the delay a "technical breach" and was disappointed arbitrator Shyam Das ignored the substance of the case.

"The very experienced laboratory director in Montreal gave evidence that the sample had not been compromised nor tampered with," Howman said. "Accordingly, no damage occurred to the sample before analysis."

"There were a lot of things that we learned about the collector, about the collection process, about the way that the entire thing worked, that made us very concerned and very suspicious about what could have actually happened," Braun said. "We spoke to biochemists and scientists and we asked them how difficult would it be to tamper with somebody's sample. And their response was that if they were motivated, it would be extremely easy."

Yet Dr. Don Catlin, one of America's top anti-doping scientists, rejected the possibility of tampering as unlikely.
"It's slim, very slim," he said. "I don't like to use the word impossible, but it's pretty close to that."

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/ryan-braun-suspension-overturned-chain-of-custody_n_1300622.html[/url]

So the doping experts say that the chances that the sample was tampered with are slim to none, and even produced plenty of evidence that it wasn't tampered with. Not only that, but Braun's team never even tried to argue during the abritration that the sample was tampered with. They argued on a technicality. Frankly, if you don't see how my example illustrates what went on in this case, then I don't know what to tell you. I know I'm not going to change your mind. However, rest assured that your opinion is off base. It's almost 100% certain that Braun was juicing, and he got off on technicality; just like a murderer caught red handed who gets off because of an illegal search. Next you're going to tell me O.J didn't kill his ex wife and her boyfriend.

 

This was turn over based on a technicality that was complete bull**** and in no way addressed the heightened level of synthetic testosterone in the man's system. This entire case was pathetic and does nothing to strengthen your argument.

 

Very well put.

 

Tbh I don't care for baseball at all but as for the drug testing, you have to do it right or you **** up the whole point of doing the drug testing. CAtlin is biased, he's a lobbyist for the drug detection community, he's the friggen fatherhead of the whole thing.

Again, it's not the first time agencies have ****ed up, and they always deny deny deny.

 

Not exactly shocking since he works with Ariza.

 

What's not exactly shocking? This is just a random thread started about someone being suspicious of Jr.

 

...And tested positive for a banned substance (diuretic) his last time out. Texas is a straight up mother****ing joke.