I'm curious; from a legacy standpoint, do Floyd and Pacquiao strengthen eachother?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Shake, May 18, 2012.


  1. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For instance --

    Mayweather beat Marquez decisively. Under normal circumstances, this would be a match easily dismissed as anything of value. Marquez was significantly above his best weight, advanced in age, and supposedly past his prime.

    He looked nearly as good as he ever has in his third showing with the Filipino superstar however. It is hard to maintain that the version Floyd fought was significantly worse or the win worthless.

    Pacquiao beat a Mosley that looked old in that ring. He was hurt early, and seemed to flinch and be gunshy against Manny's sledgehammer blows. He fought to survive, and Manny seemed to grant him that small honor out of pity. Not much in it, right?

    Only a year earlier, though, Mosley stunned Mayweather early. He had, however small, a chance to win in that round. He could not finish it, Mayweather cleared the cobwebs, fought an offensive fight, and walked Mosley down, winning handily on all three scorecards. It was a good showing by Mosley, and it was only a year before his match with Manny.

    Pacquiao also blew out De La Hoya, Cotto and Hatton. All three fought at least respectable fights with Mayweather, showing their class. Without the matches against Mayweather these could more easily be regarded as wins that hold little value.

    Man, these two have had a lot of common opponents.

    What is your take on this?

    (Also, am I the only one who thinks Joshua Clottey would have been a tough fight for Mayweather?)
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No they weaken each other by not fighting each other. But with regards to your points

    Marquez - would be seen as a blown up win, but beat a top WW in Pacquaio, so becomes better as a win

    Mosley - old for both men, Mosley didn't have a good showing against Mayweather bar round 2 and Pacquaio looked uncomfortable against Mosley's movement. Pacquaio didn't turn up the heat because he can't adapt against movement or cut off the ring. Pacquaio was also negative because he was very wary of the right hand, look at him keeping his hands higher in this fight and taking less risks

    Hatton - excellent win for both men, more so Pacquaio in the fashion it happened

    Cotto - excellent win either way for both men regardless, but Cotto pushed both men well

    DLH - seems like a greater win for Pacquaio if you don't factor in the weight drain

    Clottey - good win but a serial bottler - see his Margarito, Cotto, Baldomir fights - he should have won all 3 but managed to lose them. HE should have pushed Pacquaio to the limit or beat him but bottled it, probably a lack of stamina too. Clottey's career is a disappointment
     
  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Who do you rate higher, PP?

    I know you're big fan of Pacquiao but try to be objective.;):D
     
  4. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    PP rates Mayweather ahead of Henry Armstrong.

    That should relieve all doubt.