I'm just not buying the roman gonzalez hype

A great HW fight > Great FW fight any day IMO.

 

Currently active:

Straw 264.
Light fly 527.
Fly 718.
Super fly 644.
Bantam 867.
Super bantam 1173.
Feather 1378.
Super feather 1275.
Lightweight 1921.
Light welter 1648.
Welterweight 1900.
Junior Middle 1615.
Middleweight 1338.
Super middle 1144.
Light heavy 1097.
Cruiser 1105.
Heavy 1236.

19,586 boxers - of which over a third (6,846) compete in the so-called "midget divisions" south of lightweight.

There are 2/3 as many flyweights as there are super cruiserweights or light heavies in the world. Talent pool thin in either of those, in your opinion?

 

At flyweight!?

Pac was torched in 3 by Medgoen, who was 5'4''-and not nearly the fighter that Gonzalez is. He was KO'd by Torrecampo...who is 5'2", and not nearly the fighter that Medgoen was.

Dude...Flyweight is clearly not a division you follow very closely. Please stop trying to comment on said division and its history, because you're digging yourself into a deeper hole with each and every post.

 

They're both great fights, though...right?

 

Of course the talent pool thins at the heaviest weight classes as well too. They're getting super ****ing huge. At Gonzalez won a strawweight title. That's really damn tiny.

 

Yes, but my response was in regards to FW being more entertaining. I mean he said generally so I tend to agree, especially nowadays but I was adding my own opinion onto that, the best fights at HW pretty much surpass any other division.

 

Since prime Pac was a featherweight he destroys Gonzalez prime for prime.

And he beat Sasakul who beat the Roman Gonzalez equivalent of the 90s. And he was green as hell at that point too.

 

Well, given its history, I can understand why great fights at heavyweight tend to gain more notoriety, yeah. But gone are the days when the best or most notable heavyweight fight that was fought that year was automatically awarded FOTY by RING.

 

Caught lightning in a bottle to do it, but yeah, he beat Sakasul. Granted Chatchai was basically the Vernon Forrest of his era, but it's a nice win.

P.S. Prime Hagler destroys featherweight Pacquiao. :good

 

Most of them eventually move up in weight. Kind of hard not to...

 

Of course he does. And really it's hard for any fighter under 140 pounds to get noticed.

Under 122 or 126 and it's basically impossible.

 

lol, yall still giving this thought??

Gonzalez is about as complete as fighters can get and he lives a very disciplined life, so he will likely keep doing what he's been doing and become an ATG.

Even his last win against Viloria was extremely impressive.. Viloria is a near-elite level fighter (Near-elite to me is something like a Froch, p4p wise) when he's motivated and trains hard and he was obviously in great mental/physical shape when the fight happened. But Gonzalez just dismantled the dude beautifully, he couldn't do anything.. He'll likely do the same to Inoue. He'd likely do the same to a prime Ricardo Lopez. I'm not sure how the hell one even beats him unless he doesn't take a fight fully seriously or his opponent is much larger/stronger than him.

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I find that very hard to believe.

 

My first impulse is to call Forza a fool, for doubting a guy with 13 title fights in three weight classes, undefeated in forty-four fights, but Donaire and Mosley both fell off their perch at the top around that point. They were great fighters nonetheless, just not quite as good as people thought. James Toney had accomplished about that much too when he had back to back losses to Roy Jones and Montell Griffin.