Im just not ready to blame Canelo. I see this as a blame for both ggg and saul.

take this shannahan guy for example

hes telling me its ok to ask ward for a cw because ward is a bigger threat than chavez and froch! well ya no ya don't say....but when you view a fighter as a threat and try to find a way out of fighting him its a duck

just like what canelo is doing....

these guys are so clueless "well froch and chavez are different because ward is a bigger threat so its not a duck"...as if you being a bigger threat than the other guys makes you automatically 10x bigger in physical stature or something

 

These guys have no shame and it's hilarious to see.

 

It's not a hater tactic it's exposing GGG for being a cherry picker. No problem fighting Chavez Jr at 168 who has no belt but wont do the same with Ward. You don't like it because it destroys you and you can't refute it.:deal

Lastly, the difference between RJJ and GGG is RJJ took risks dared to be great and his resume is 1000000 light years beyond GGG. Him jumping up to HW and fighting anyone let alone a title holder prevents him from facing an ounce of criticism horrible comparison. When GGG does the same like RJJ who moved from 154 to HW you can talk until then log off.:hi:

 

Irrelevant! He said he would make it for GGG that's all that matters. Who knows if he would have hurt his knee or not?

 

they literally act like its ok to ask ward for a cw, but not froch and chavez, because ward is a bigger threat! like really? and that doesn't make it a duck for ward and a cherrypick attempt at chavez or froch?

i mean you cant make this stuff up....they are so far up their own rear ends they cant for a second admit that 164 for ward was a duck...they just have to fight it.....like cant give an inch up of "yeah well ok maybe ggg did duck ward"....

 

I blame Joe Louis. He's clearly the one responsible for Canelo dropping his WBC strap. :bart

 

look at them desperately trying to play that game

like i said...when has ward given us a reason not to believe him?

ward is known as one of the straightest shooters in the sport...has a great reputation...and these guys wanna doubt his word....when ward said hed make he would have made it.....plain and simple

the desperation in their words is sad

 

Anyone who knows boxing already knows Ward is a stylistic nightmare for GGG and that's why he steered clear of him. GGG fans know this as well but will never admit it. They don't have to because if you can read between the lines you can see it.:deal If Ward was easy work they would have been calling for GGG to fight Ward so he could finally get a legit name on his resume just like they did Froch, Chavez Jr, Cotto and Canelo but he's not easy work so they don't want the fight. Even more you saw how many of these same posters wanted him to fight Kovalev so badly, why? Because they truly think Kovalev can beat Ward but they don't think GGG can. That's how you can always spot someone with an agenda. These guys are too easy:yep

 

Think you are talking about yourself there Dennis. You normally go awol when faced with facts against your fanatical fanboyism.

 

Well it is relevant.

Why should Golovkin put his career on hold to see if he could?

Ward's career has stalled and has no one to blame but himself.

 

Must be strange having a conversation with yourself? Are you enjoying it?

 

Pimp, I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible, because you're not a bad poster:

When you're routinely agreeing with Shockmaster about GGG, it may well be time to re-evaluate your position.

Similar instances would include, but are not limited to:
1) Rico on RJJ
2) Farmboxer about Floyd
3) Herol on Calzaghe
4) Conversely, bailey about Calzaghe
5) dino about Wlad

And so forth.

 

6) MVC! on anything

 

:good
Thanks for the kind words. I can admit I have gone on about GGG a little too much but that's only because I want to see the man finally step up fight a fighter of note. I'm not saying GGG is trash you've never seen me say that. He's skilled and I don't think anyone beats him at 160 it's a dead division. Guys won't fight you here so instead of staying there why not move up and take on 168. Other fighters in the past have done the same thing. Even though 168 isn't great you will get more credit for beating naturally bigger men not to mention DeGale is seen as better than anyone at 160.

 

which is basically the same thing ive been saying all along....but too many cant see the premise of what i say...they only see the things they want to see